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I think you're right. I've lived almost my whole life in rural areas, and have owned guns almost my whole life. With my brothers, father, grandfather, etc. M

I think you're right. I've lived almost my whole life in rural areas, and have owned guns almost my whole life. With my brothers, father, grandfather, etc. Most of my friends own guns. I have never known anyone who shot somebody (with the unfortunate exception of suicide.) I guess it's an urban thing.

giantg2 5y ago
I was mostly talking about the different views on guns. But it does seem that certain crimes occur at a higher rate in one area or the other. https://www.ncjrs.gov/ovc_archives/ncvrw/2017/images/en_artwork/Fact_Sheets/2017NCVRW_UrbanRural_508.pdf https://www.ncjrs.gov/ovc_archives/ncvrw/2017/images/en_artw...
throw0101a 5y ago
> I guess it's an urban thing. It's probably an EDC thing: * https://twitter.com/well_regulated_ https://twitter.com/well_regulated_ In rural areas I think long guns are generally more useful, whereas in the non-rural, (sub)urban areas it's pistols that are carried about. Every time a gun is handled there is some probability of an ND, and the larger the number of guns, the more often the dice will roll for that ND. Adding to that is that some people have no right/business owning a firearm in the first place because they lack self control and/or have psychological/emotional issues that need to be looked at: * https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/wake-county-news/1-dead-following-shooting-inside-vehicle-in-new-hill-in-dispute-over-missing-cell-phone/ https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/wake-county-news/1-dea... * Via: https://twitter.com/Well_Regulated_/status/1479940156346048517 https://twitter.com/Well_Regulated_/status/14799401563460485... There needs to be some kind a filter about ownership, even if it's as simple a one day course learning gun safety: * http://www.firearmstraining.ca/actsprove.htm http://www.firearmstraining.ca/actsprove.htm * https://www.bulletproofset.ca/page8/page12/prove.html https://www.bulletproofset.ca/page8/page12/prove.html The folks with absolutely zero discipline will be unlikely to bother with that course.
- giantg2 5y ago
  "In rural areas I think long guns are generally more useful, whereas in the non-rural, (sub)urban areas it's pistols that are carried about." It's generally pistols that are carried in either setting. My state has has carry license (effectively only covers pistols) numbers at the county level. The number of licenses are much higher in rural areas. This also matches with the higher rural ownership numbers. "Every time a gun is handled there is some probability of an ND, and the larger the number of guns, the more often the dice will roll for that ND." True. The real question is what level of probability is acceptable. I would expect this to be a highly opinionated. My own view is that AD/ND happens so infrequently, and even more rarely hits someone other than the carrier (usually shooting themselves in the foot/leg), that it's a non-issue compared to many other daily activities that carry risk. "There needs to be some kind a filter about ownership, even if it's as simple a one day course learning gun safety... The folks with absolutely zero discipline will be unlikely to bother with that course." We could teach it in schools. That's supposed to be the purpose of schools - educating society to be a fully capable responsible member of society. Whether that's with safety issues, self sufficiency, financial literacy, etc, it seems we are doing a poor job. The benefit to teaching everyone is that people who are non-owners may come across a situation where a gun is present.

giantg2 5y ago

I was mostly talking about the different views on guns. But it does seem that certain crimes occur at a higher rate in one area or the other. https://www.ncjrs.gov/ovc_archives/ncvrw/2017/images/en_artwork/Fact_Sheets/2017NCVRW_UrbanRural_508.pdf https://www.ncjrs.gov/ovc_archives/ncvrw/2017/images/en_artw...

throw0101a 5y ago

> I guess it's an urban thing. It's probably an EDC thing: * https://twitter.com/well_regulated_ https://twitter.com/well_regulated_ In rural areas I think long guns are generally more useful, whereas in the non-rural, (sub)urban areas it's pistols that are carried about. Every time a gun is handled there is some probability of an ND, and the larger the number of guns, the more often the dice will roll for that ND. Adding to that is that some people have no right/business owning a firearm in the first place because they lack self control and/or have psychological/emotional issues that need to be looked at: * https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/wake-county-news/1-dead-following-shooting-inside-vehicle-in-new-hill-in-dispute-over-missing-cell-phone/ https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/wake-county-news/1-dea... * Via: https://twitter.com/Well_Regulated_/status/1479940156346048517 https://twitter.com/Well_Regulated_/status/14799401563460485... There needs to be some kind a filter about ownership, even if it's as simple a one day course learning gun safety: * http://www.firearmstraining.ca/actsprove.htm http://www.firearmstraining.ca/actsprove.htm * https://www.bulletproofset.ca/page8/page12/prove.html https://www.bulletproofset.ca/page8/page12/prove.html The folks with absolutely zero discipline will be unlikely to bother with that course.

giantg2 5y ago
"In rural areas I think long guns are generally more useful, whereas in the non-rural, (sub)urban areas it's pistols that are carried about." It's generally pistols that are carried in either setting. My state has has carry license (effectively only covers pistols) numbers at the county level. The number of licenses are much higher in rural areas. This also matches with the higher rural ownership numbers. "Every time a gun is handled there is some probability of an ND, and the larger the number of guns, the more often the dice will roll for that ND." True. The real question is what level of probability is acceptable. I would expect this to be a highly opinionated. My own view is that AD/ND happens so infrequently, and even more rarely hits someone other than the carrier (usually shooting themselves in the foot/leg), that it's a non-issue compared to many other daily activities that carry risk. "There needs to be some kind a filter about ownership, even if it's as simple a one day course learning gun safety... The folks with absolutely zero discipline will be unlikely to bother with that course." We could teach it in schools. That's supposed to be the purpose of schools - educating society to be a fully capable responsible member of society. Whether that's with safety issues, self sufficiency, financial literacy, etc, it seems we are doing a poor job. The benefit to teaching everyone is that people who are non-owners may come across a situation where a gun is present.