To expand on this, because I think some of the confusion is probably from more basic concepts... Clothing patterns, stitching, and details differ in manufactur

To expand on this, because I think some of the confusion is probably from more basic concepts... Clothing patterns, stitching, and details differ in manufacturing time and suitability for mass production. The vast majority of clothing is optimized for production, because time is expense, and therefore less time is more profit. In men's sizing, we generally come in fewer shapes. Square-to-athletic-to-slim fit + arm length + overall size. But for most people, there's still going to be a delta between {hypothetical optimal fit} and {nearest mass-market fit}. So a nice shirt really starts at doing whatever it takes to get closer to optimal fit (even if it requires some difficult, hand-sewn-only magic) and adds better materials and finishes (buttons, button-holes, stitching, etc). At the end of the day, it's kind of like watches though -- 95% of people won't recognize the differences. I got more complements from C-level folks on my $50 quartz Casio diver [0], because it copies a lot of Rolex details, than anything mechanical without plastic. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/bmld2y/casio_duro_finally_got_my_marlin/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/bmld2y/casio_duro_...