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Chrome 14 released
- sixothree 15y agoI don't understand why security-minded people seem to use Chrome more than Chromium. Does anyone understand this?
- untog 15y agoWhat do you mean "security-minded"? Chrome doesn't include HTTPS or XSS vulnerabilities that Chromium does not. Both browsers are as 'secure' as each other. I assume you really mean "people who don't like sharing personal data". They're different things.
- sixothree 15y agoCorrect, I meant privacy-minded.
- beaumartinez 15y agoI've never heard of the phenomenon myself, but Chrome is self-updating—AFAIK Chromium isn't.
- robtoo 15y agoI prefer Chrome because its updater also includes the flash plugin, and it has its own pdf-reader plugin. Chromium also doesn't do releases, just lots of bleeding edge snapshots, and one or two of those have been badly broken.
- simonbrown 15y agoOutside of conspiracy theories and some limited statistics, all tracking features can be disabled. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#Usage_tracking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#Usage_tracking Chromium doesn't have an auto-update mechanism and it can be hard to find a version that corresponds to the current stable release.
- Pewpewarrows 15y agoI'm concerned about Privacy to the extent that I might actually be negatively affected by it. The worst-case scenario that I can think of from the usage tracking in Chrome (that you can opt out of) is that I get served more relevant advertising that I might actually care about clicking. That doesn't seem evil at all.
- davidwparker 15y agoI prefer Chrome due to its ability to sync bookmarks, which I use often.
- hwatson 15y agoChromium does this too.
- samstokes 15y agoThis release includes another significant change that, for some reason, neither the submitted article nor the higher-level announcement [1] mentions: if an HTTPS page loads a script over HTTP, the script is now blocked from executing. There's a popup which warns you that "This page has insecure content", and you can opt to ignore the warning and unblock. [1] http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-stable-release-of-chrome-expanding.html http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-stable-release-of-chr...
- stanleydrew 15y agoThis was covered a little while back. [1][2] Still worthy of mention though. I personally love this change. I am on the dev channel (15.0.874.5) and I think insecure content is just blocked by default, without a dialog. [1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2662694 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2662694 [2] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2698378 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2698378
- samstokes 15y agoIt was covered as a future change, but as it breaks apps, it's important to note that this release brings it into the mainstream.
- stanleydrew 15y agoAgreed, although you could argue that apps were already broken. Chrome just isn't as kind to broken apps anymore.
- natmaster 15y agoAnd people complain about the new Firefox release cycles. At least they ship improvements to the browser every release, instead of just shipping fast.
- aboodman 15y agoWhat? Firstly, there are several improvements: http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-stable-release-of-chrome-expanding.html http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-stable-release-of-chr... Secondly, Firefox's new release is the same as Chrome's. Every six weeks, like clockwork. More releases, less big features in each release.
- natmaster 15y agoLike I said, same release cycle, but barely shipping anything. Please try to read comments before you reply to them. Thanks!
- ary 15y agoPlease try to know your history before posting. Thanks! The Chrome release cycle is meant to make sure not only features, but critical updates make it out to users on a timely basis. Every release isn't guaranteed to be feature-packed because that isn't the goal. Ultimately it's about keeping the project on a steady rhythm of development which sees features and fixes out the door as soon as they're ready.
- natmaster 15y agoI'm not complaining about Chrome's release cycle. I'm pointing out the double standard. Don't assume things!
- jonknee 15y agoChrome updates itself and things like Flash, you never have to do anything. Indeed most users won't even realize they have been updated, it's quite invisible. It has also always worked this way, so knowing what version of Chrome you're using isn't even a concept.
- stanleydrew 15y agoDoes anybody have more details about this bug or the fix. The Google code link 403s for me: [$2337] [93906] High CVE-2011-2862: Unintended access to v8 built-in objects. Credit to Sergey Glazunov. [93906] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=93906 http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=93906
- aboodman 15y agoI think the release managers usually unlock security bugs for a release once most of the population has been updated. So check back in a few days to a week.
- simonbrown 15y agoThe blog posts mention that the bugs are only kept private until most people are up to date, but some never seem to be made public. For example: http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2011/01/chrome-stable-release.html http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2011/01/chrome-stab... Some of the bugs (e.g. 66560) still give me a 403 (although some are accessible).
- aboodman 15y agoOf the 15 bugs there, 9 are open now. I'll poke someone more knowledgable and ask them to explain why the others have not been opened. I could imagine that it's that the process for unlocking them is manual and easy to forget, or it could be that other instances of those bugs were uncovered so it still isn't safe to open them.
- aboodman 15y agoaayra (who replied to great-grandparent) works on Chrome security team. It looks like all the bugs that are still closed are WebKit bugs (css, svg, etc), and we don't open them until the other WebKit clients are updated.
- aarya 15y ago
- sho_hn 15y agoBTW, has anyone actually seen an extension using the experimental sidebar API in the wild? http://code.google.com/chrome/extensions/experimental.sidebar.html http://code.google.com/chrome/extensions/experimental.sideba... I've been waiting for a bookmarks sidebar (which I habitually use as a reading queue in other browsers).
- cultureulterior 15y agoThere's this guy, who I think is doing tree tabs: http://code.google.com/p/sidewise/ http://code.google.com/p/sidewise/
- ciex 15y agoIs this really the Chrome implementation of a sidebar? Looks to me more like a floating secondary window which continually tries to dock to the main Chrome frame.
- MatthewPhillips 15y agoYou're not allowed to submit extensions/apps that use the experimental APIs.
- sho_hn 15y agoRight, but what's to stop you from publishing one on your personal blog? I googled for people playing around with it and came up more or less empty-handed. Or is extension install non-trivial if you're not going through the web catalog? How do extension authors test their work?
- MatthewPhillips 15y agoI've written only apps for Chrome, not extensions, but the process is nearly identical. If you go to Wrench > Tools > Extensions you can load the directory you're working in. I suppose you can self-publish extensions with the experimental APIs but I doubt many people play around with chrome.experimental. I played around with chrome.experimental.tts a bit, but not knowing if the feature will be killed or promoted is reason enough not to waste too much of your time.
- imrehg 15y agoWell, I'm happily running 16.0.878.0 now :) (newer builds break, but only a matter of days till it will be fixed, most likely)
- cultureulterior 15y agoWhich only means all the bugs get a "MovedFrom-14" tag.
- nextparadigms 15y agoHow come they didn't mention it includes Native Client and the Web Audio API? That is very newsworthy. http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/new_chrome_blurs_the_line_between_web_and_native_a.php http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/new_chrome_blurs_the_li...
- 0xABADC0DA 15y agoBig fan of Firefox nightly here. It's only 5% slower than Chrome dev channel on Kracken, has a better garbage collector (fewer pauses, less overhead), is more configurable (UI, better extensions), about the same compositing, scales to any number of open tabs.
- joenathan 15y agoI can't wait until the new download manager lands, the current download window feels archaic.
- mixmastamyk 15y agoTry download status bar, been using it for years.
- stock_toaster 15y agolooks like full-screen is back in lion, and actually works!