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There’s definitely a fight over gun rights in the US more than other countries. It’s a positive feedback loop: gun-related violence prompts for more restriction
by Nextgrid 5y ago
There’s definitely a fight over gun rights in the US more than other countries. It’s a positive feedback loop: gun-related violence prompts for more restrictions which in turn prompts people to acquire (and carry) guns in defiance despite not having other, more practical (self-defense, recreational shooting, hunting, etc) to do so and in turn cause more gun violence, intentionally (escalating confrontations to deadly shootouts that would otherwise be resolved without deadly force) or accidents like this one seems to be.
It doesn’t help that guns are also a political weapon - whenever a party wants to introduce gun restrictions, the other can use this as an advantage to secure votes (supported by pro-gun organisations such as the NRA). This of course isn’t limited to guns per-se but guns happen to be there and have a cult-like following often defying rationality - a perfect tool for politicians to take advantage of.
I’m not sure what a good solution to this would be. In my mind, the right to bear arms is already meaningless - my understanding is the the original purpose of the second amendment was to allow people to be armed to defend themselves against an abusive government - as using these arms to defend yourself against abusive law enforcement is already outlawed and can only result in life imprisonment at best and death (as in by deadly force used by police) at worst.
In this case (assuming my understanding of 2A is correct) I believe a solution might be to forcefully restrict gun ownership. There’s definitely going to be turmoil and collateral damage (I believe guns can be owned and recreationally enjoyed responsibly without harming anyone and it would be a shame to let that go) but the advantages of having less guns around might pay off in the end.
- giantg2 5y agoTheoretically, if the government became abusive enough, factions of law enforcement and military would take sides. Not that I see a civil war as being likely, although some experts see signs pointing to the possibility. It's certainly an interesting topic to research - a 1st world government abusive enough to cause the people to fight, and would they actually fight or would it be resolved through succession etc. https://www.businessinsider.com/us-close-to-violent-conflict-book-how-civil-wars-start-2022-1?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/us-close-to-violent-conflict...
- 01acheru 5y agoI totally agree that reducing weapons around should reduce weapon related violence, and also weapon related anything. But why does a gun in the US kill more than that same gun in almost any developed county by an N factor? Is this also a cultural factor? Or maybe social or political? Or maybe there is a threshold over which weapon violence rises with a higher exponential in relation to weapon ownership? For example over a certain threshold you end up having a significant number of armed individuals that are poor, desperate and armed which boosts potentially lethal criminality. Or stupid and violent armed people. Or maybe: over a certain threshold you have too many people that are simply both armed and stupid. Occam's razor point towards this one IMHO.