4 ms·

I don't think the point is about how many people actually perform military duty, but about how the US military culture works in practice. Switzerland for examp

I don't think the point is about how many people actually perform military duty, but about how the US military culture works in practice. Switzerland for example has a heavily compulsory military duty but IMHO a less violent, less patriotic, less indoctrinated and less glorified military culture.

sorokod 5y ago
It is a culture thing, just not millitary culture.
- 01acheru 5y ago
  Even if gun obsession is a cultural thing, how that translates to gun violence? And to gun recklessness?
  - sorokod 5y ago
    Not an American but for whatever it's worth: * American society is deeply mistrustful of itself. * Firearms are freely available Everything else follows.
  - Nextgrid 5y ago
    Guns being a political statement means more people will get guns to make that political statement. This translates into more guns being around that could cause accidents (which I believe this one is) or would escalate already violent situations to a deadly level.
    - 01acheru 5y ago
      How can "firing 30+ rounds on a Sunday morning in a residential area" be an accident? It is like saying that driving a truck on a crowded street on LSD and killing somebody is an accident.
      - Nextgrid 5y ago
        An accident in the sense that I don't believe their objective was to kill. They were stupid and reckless, but if they actually wanted to kill people there are much better ways than firing rounds towards a forest and hoping to get "lucky" and hit someone.
withinboredom 5y ago
As someone once in the military, I never cared much about guns. When I got out, I got one just to feel safe from all the idiots with guns. For example, I got in a friends car once and opened the glove box to put something in it. I found a gun pointing right at me. I carefully picked it up and cleared it. It was loaded with the safety off. I chewed him a new asshole and we weren’t friends after that (not my doing, but they didn’t appreciate my verbiage after accidentally threatening my life). Part of the problem is like me, getting one just to protect yourself from everyone else that has one.

sorokod 5y ago

It is a culture thing, just not millitary culture.

01acheru 5y ago
Even if gun obsession is a cultural thing, how that translates to gun violence? And to gun recklessness?
- sorokod 5y ago
  Not an American but for whatever it's worth: * American society is deeply mistrustful of itself. * Firearms are freely available Everything else follows.
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  Guns being a political statement means more people will get guns to make that political statement. This translates into more guns being around that could cause accidents (which I believe this one is) or would escalate already violent situations to a deadly level.
  - 01acheru 5y ago
    How can "firing 30+ rounds on a Sunday morning in a residential area" be an accident? It is like saying that driving a truck on a crowded street on LSD and killing somebody is an accident.
    - Nextgrid 5y ago
      An accident in the sense that I don't believe their objective was to kill. They were stupid and reckless, but if they actually wanted to kill people there are much better ways than firing rounds towards a forest and hoping to get "lucky" and hit someone.

withinboredom 5y ago

As someone once in the military, I never cared much about guns. When I got out, I got one just to feel safe from all the idiots with guns. For example, I got in a friends car once and opened the glove box to put something in it. I found a gun pointing right at me. I carefully picked it up and cleared it. It was loaded with the safety off. I chewed him a new asshole and we weren’t friends after that (not my doing, but they didn’t appreciate my verbiage after accidentally threatening my life). Part of the problem is like me, getting one just to protect yourself from everyone else that has one.