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This feels like what StumbleUpon was (a positive correlation :) ) -- would you be willing to add what criteria "similar" is based on in the info box upper left?

This feels like what StumbleUpon was (a positive correlation :) ) -- would you be willing to add what criteria "similar" is based on in the info box upper left? For example I have no clue what this below domain is, so would be curious as to what the algorithm uses as "similar" to show me more (keywords? links? domain names? hosting providers? tech used? country located? etc.) https://search.marginalia.nu/explore/cblgh.org https://search.marginalia.nu/explore/cblgh.org

marginalia_nu 5y ago
It's mostly adjacency in the link graph. I use a mix of direct neighbors and Personalized PageRank to produce the list.
webmaven 5y ago
> This feels like what StumbleUpon was (a positive correlation :) Also like Delicious Bookmarks in it's heyday.
- marginalia_nu 5y ago
  Yeah, there was a lot of these discovery services back in the day. It's a shame they eventually all died and/or became astroturfing platforms.
  - NetOpWibby 5y ago
    What’s to stop a new one from releasing?
    - marginalia_nu 5y ago
      Probably profitability. I feel what happened to the last bunch was they lived on hopes and prayers until they started to run out of investor money, and then they self-cannibalized in a last ditch effort to break even and then they didn't and now they're gone. Although I run my site non-profit with a damn near zero burn-rate so for me it's all the same if I have 3 visitors per day or 3 million.
      - 20after4 5y ago
        A couple of questions: 1. Are you accepting collaborators? 2. do you have any plans to share the source? I'd love to contribute somehow, either a) by donating some of my time and skills to improving the software, or b) by donating some infrastructure to expand the capacity / redundancy of your search engine.
        marginalia_nu 5y ago
        I'm a bit limited by how little time I can put on this, which is the main reason why I don't currently have any plans on open sourcing it. Like I couldn't responsibly run that project, and just dumping it on github wouldn't be useful for anyone. Besides, most value comes from the database, which sadly would be fairly harmful if it came to circulate among search engine marketers. Some sort of collaboration might be doable, but again, I don't actually have a lot of bandwidth to actually manage it. Right now I'm doing some API-level collaboration with Teclis. I am sort of beginning to see hardware limitations though, so if you have ideas for how to get more I'd be interested to hear what you propose.
        20after4 5y ago
        Are you running this on-premise or in a colocation / cloud environment?

marginalia_nu 5y ago

It's mostly adjacency in the link graph. I use a mix of direct neighbors and Personalized PageRank to produce the list.

webmaven 5y ago

> This feels like what StumbleUpon was (a positive correlation :) Also like Delicious Bookmarks in it's heyday.

marginalia_nu 5y ago
Yeah, there was a lot of these discovery services back in the day. It's a shame they eventually all died and/or became astroturfing platforms.
- NetOpWibby 5y ago
  What’s to stop a new one from releasing?
  - marginalia_nu 5y ago
    Probably profitability. I feel what happened to the last bunch was they lived on hopes and prayers until they started to run out of investor money, and then they self-cannibalized in a last ditch effort to break even and then they didn't and now they're gone. Although I run my site non-profit with a damn near zero burn-rate so for me it's all the same if I have 3 visitors per day or 3 million.
    - 20after4 5y ago
      A couple of questions: 1. Are you accepting collaborators? 2. do you have any plans to share the source? I'd love to contribute somehow, either a) by donating some of my time and skills to improving the software, or b) by donating some infrastructure to expand the capacity / redundancy of your search engine.
      - marginalia_nu 5y ago
        I'm a bit limited by how little time I can put on this, which is the main reason why I don't currently have any plans on open sourcing it. Like I couldn't responsibly run that project, and just dumping it on github wouldn't be useful for anyone. Besides, most value comes from the database, which sadly would be fairly harmful if it came to circulate among search engine marketers. Some sort of collaboration might be doable, but again, I don't actually have a lot of bandwidth to actually manage it. Right now I'm doing some API-level collaboration with Teclis. I am sort of beginning to see hardware limitations though, so if you have ideas for how to get more I'd be interested to hear what you propose.
        20after4 5y ago
        Are you running this on-premise or in a colocation / cloud environment?