3 ms·

Universities in modern day are used by staff and admins as a free tax payer funded paycheck. I would know. While the students are hammered with having to make m

Universities in modern day are used by staff and admins as a free tax payer funded paycheck. I would know. While the students are hammered with having to make money to afford to live there, papers, trivia tests, and subjects completely irrelevant to their field, causing them to not learn what they need in their field of study. We are pushing out students with little to no real world experience and very little ability to critically think or find answers on their own. Mostly because we give them no time to and instead make them write about what Plato did, or how we can create more gender neutral environments. There is no accountability. A university can offer a degree and teach nothing. They don't have to prove their graduates go anywhere, and often lie with statistics like "90% of our students get a job in their field". Meaning maybe a desk clerk. As for discrimination of opinion, its more akin to the spanish inquisition. Take for example these mask mandate rules. Students have to wear a mask, all the time, except not outside, or off campus, or when partying in housing. But the University police will threaten students if they are by themselves not wearing a mask. Everyone is vaccinated. It's all heavily politically motivated. They don't want their democrat institution to look bad. These factual points have been brought up plenty of times and the school admins know they don't have to listen to anybody. They're getting paid, if the school goes belly up because of the lack of students ( 1 million fewer students overall this year), they know they can just leave to destroy another institution. It's really bad, people don't realize just how bad COVID rules destroyed some of these uni's, how quickly they had to build new systems for "online learning" just to stay afloat. All because they can't manage costs and play politics. That all comes back down on the students.

einpoklum 5y ago
> Universities in modern day are used by staff and admins as a free tax payer funded paycheck. No. University staff - academic and administrative - work for their paycheck. I would assume most of them work hard, although my evidence is local/anecdotal. > While the students are hammered with having to make money to afford to live there This is not a problem in every country, but yes, I agree that university education should be gratis. > We are pushing out students with little to no real world experience To the extent that the university is not the real-world - this is a tautology. > very little ability to critically think or find answers on their own.... we give them no time to and instead make them write about what Plato did, or how we can create more gender neutral environments. This is an over-generalization. Perhaps this happens in your department, in your university, in your country - and perhaps some others; I doubt this is true in the majority of cases. Although I'll grant you that institutions properly fostering critical thought is somewhat of a rarity. > There is no accountability. A university can offer a degree and teach nothing In many/most countries this is false: There are periodic appraisals of various academic tracks by other universities, the state, relevant industries etc (details vary by country). > people don't realize just how bad COVID rules destroyed some of these uni's This may be true, but I'm not in academia these days so I wouldn't know.
- devwastaken 5y ago
  Youre making assumptions based on prior experience. I am stating facts based on current ongoing experience. Part of the reason of massive student costs is the amount of jobs has significantly increased and paychecks have increased, reducing workloads between them to the point that most professors have maybe a class or two, the rest of their time spent working on projects designed to fail or be ineffective. It's a great job to work on something half assed that no boss can say "hey that's totally a waste of resources and time". Same goes for administrators. University is seen as good because it's what we have. If we defund it and rebuild we can have something far better that actually meets the needs of the market and society.

einpoklum 5y ago

> Universities in modern day are used by staff and admins as a free tax payer funded paycheck. No. University staff - academic and administrative - work for their paycheck. I would assume most of them work hard, although my evidence is local/anecdotal. > While the students are hammered with having to make money to afford to live there This is not a problem in every country, but yes, I agree that university education should be gratis. > We are pushing out students with little to no real world experience To the extent that the university is not the real-world - this is a tautology. > very little ability to critically think or find answers on their own.... we give them no time to and instead make them write about what Plato did, or how we can create more gender neutral environments. This is an over-generalization. Perhaps this happens in your department, in your university, in your country - and perhaps some others; I doubt this is true in the majority of cases. Although I'll grant you that institutions properly fostering critical thought is somewhat of a rarity. > There is no accountability. A university can offer a degree and teach nothing In many/most countries this is false: There are periodic appraisals of various academic tracks by other universities, the state, relevant industries etc (details vary by country). > people don't realize just how bad COVID rules destroyed some of these uni's This may be true, but I'm not in academia these days so I wouldn't know.

devwastaken 5y ago
Youre making assumptions based on prior experience. I am stating facts based on current ongoing experience. Part of the reason of massive student costs is the amount of jobs has significantly increased and paychecks have increased, reducing workloads between them to the point that most professors have maybe a class or two, the rest of their time spent working on projects designed to fail or be ineffective. It's a great job to work on something half assed that no boss can say "hey that's totally a waste of resources and time". Same goes for administrators. University is seen as good because it's what we have. If we defund it and rebuild we can have something far better that actually meets the needs of the market and society.