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You can still right-click save-as that overpriced jpeg and use it in a hexagonal twitter profile pic. You just need to go through the additional step of minting

by blfr 5y ago

You can still right-click save-as that overpriced jpeg and use it in a hexagonal twitter profile pic. You just need to go through the additional step of minting a fresh NFT.

zydex 5y ago
Exactly, they’ve just pushed the verification a bit deeper. Nobody is going to bother checking the collection and that it comes from the right addresses etc.
ihuman 5y ago
You could also just add the hexagonal border in photoshop, and set that image as your profile picture
- CydeWeys 5y ago
  It doesn't really work the same in Twitter (speaking as someone with a fake hexagonal PFP as a joke).
  - eropple 5y ago
    We’ve all seen the apes. The worse and more janky it looks, the more of an NFT it really is. Some say that if it’s relentlessly ugly enough it’ll make itself non-fungible.
throwawaycities 5y ago
And you “can” also copy/reproduce nearly every other work with a copyright. It’s even less trivial to copy a Disney movie, or copy/paste an electronic copy of Any Harry Potter book…you don’t even need to take the step of minting an NFT. Of course violating a copyright will subject you to civil damages and in certain circumstances may be criminal. Sometimes when you are a copyright holder it is nearly impossible to prove a fake and/or identify the counterfeiter, the idea a fake can be immediately verified via blockchain and the pirate connected to a Twitter account would generally be a welcome change in the world of copyright enforcement.
- ohgodplsno 5y ago
  NFTs do not transfer copyrights. Dumbasses buying bored apes are just that, dumbasses-buying-bored-apes, not dumbasses-buying-bored-apes-but-at-least-they-have-ownership. Additionally, good luck getting a court recognize opensea as a source of copyright when it's drowning in copyright infringements. I can just mint your NFT somewhere else and it'll be just as valid.
  - throwawaycities 5y ago
    > NFTs do not transfer copyrights. Some do, some don’t, the industry standard ”NFT License” transfers limited rights. You seem to pretty confident and feel strongly, but as an example the owners of apes you are calling dumbasses for buying apes and not having ownership, do in fact receive a license to the apes they own. It’s pretty common for infringing NFTs and infringing collections to be removed from OpenSea using DMCA takedown requests. OpenSea is the biggest marketplace in the space and centralized so they have that power (but it doesn’t remove the infringing NFT from the blockchain). Twitter already has a built in DMCA takedown request process and team, I’m sure they will process them for official profile NFTs. And there is always the court as the last resort for copyright infringement, which you don’t seem to believe in. Sure you can copy and “mint” an NFT all you want, no different than any other copyrighted digital work can be copied and reproduced…but you would be violating the law in either case. Why do you think copyright protections don’t apply to NFTs and copyrights can’t be enforced when they happen to be NFTs?
    - dmitriid 5y ago
      > Some do, some don’t None of them do. > the industry standard ”NFT License” transfers limited rights. It doesn't. (Also, there's no "industry standard for NFTs") > but as an example the owners of apes you are calling dumbasses for buying apes and not having ownership, do in fact receive a license to the apes they own. No, they don't. They receive a hash pointing to a location that may or may not contain that ape, ... and that's it. > Sure you can copy and “mint” an NFT all you want, no different than any other copyrighted digital work can be copied and reproduced…but you would be violating the law in either case. And the law has literally nothing to do with NFTs. > Why do you think copyright protections don’t apply to NFTs and copyrights can’t be enforced when they happen to be NFTs? Yes, they do. Yes, they can. And they have to do with the actual art being sold, and have nothing to do with NFTs.
addingnumbers 5y ago
I don't think "overpriced" is a valid criticism of a system built to funnel money from people with disposable income to artists. It seems to reflect a distaste for the entire concept of arts patronage. Other things that are overpriced to a pure pragmatist: getting your name in the credits of a video by a youtube creator you'd like to support. Tickets to a recital for a recent graduate raising money to travel during audition season. Getting a museum wing named after you. Appointing a poet laureate. If you want to live in a world where artists can afford to devote a majority of their time to their art instead of day jobs, you have to tolerate that systems are built to fund them, even if you balk at some of the most sensational price tags or artists' tastes.
- egypturnash 5y ago
  Patreon is a thing that works to funnel money from people with disposable income to artists without any involvement of The World's Most Inefficient Database, aka "blockchain". It pays most of my bills. The name is literally a riff on "patron".
- throwaway17_17 5y ago
  NFTs are not being seen or used as a ‘system built to funnel money … to artists’. That maybe one vision you have for them, but it is not the artists getting paid for the NFTs. Some company that is hosting/running/administering a blockchain is getting money. There have been numerous cases and public postings about these companies selling NFTs to buyers and the artist did not know, authorize, or consent to the sale. Sure, maybe that is one possible usage, i.e. artists getting paid for art, but for now there doesn’t seem to be any patronage happening. It’s all corporate press pushes or scammy looking behaviors.
  - xkapastel 5y ago
    That's clearly untrue, there are plenty of artists being paid for art with NFTs. Just go on NFT Twitter and look.
- throwhauser 5y ago
  How much of the money is going to artists though, and how much to opportunistic NFT "drops" of random junk that are borrowing legitimacy from actual artists?
egypturnash 5y ago
Or you can just put it in a hexagonal clipping mask and save it as a PNG, then use that. No need to spend any money on a blockchain. It'll have the same effect of "people who dislike cryptobros blocking you on sight".

by blfr 5y ago

You can still right-click save-as that overpriced jpeg and use it in a hexagonal twitter profile pic. You just need to go through the additional step of minting a fresh NFT.

zydex 5y ago

Exactly, they’ve just pushed the verification a bit deeper. Nobody is going to bother checking the collection and that it comes from the right addresses etc.

ihuman 5y ago

You could also just add the hexagonal border in photoshop, and set that image as your profile picture

CydeWeys 5y ago
It doesn't really work the same in Twitter (speaking as someone with a fake hexagonal PFP as a joke).
- eropple 5y ago
  We’ve all seen the apes. The worse and more janky it looks, the more of an NFT it really is. Some say that if it’s relentlessly ugly enough it’ll make itself non-fungible.

throwawaycities 5y ago

And you “can” also copy/reproduce nearly every other work with a copyright. It’s even less trivial to copy a Disney movie, or copy/paste an electronic copy of Any Harry Potter book…you don’t even need to take the step of minting an NFT. Of course violating a copyright will subject you to civil damages and in certain circumstances may be criminal. Sometimes when you are a copyright holder it is nearly impossible to prove a fake and/or identify the counterfeiter, the idea a fake can be immediately verified via blockchain and the pirate connected to a Twitter account would generally be a welcome change in the world of copyright enforcement.

ohgodplsno 5y ago
NFTs do not transfer copyrights. Dumbasses buying bored apes are just that, dumbasses-buying-bored-apes, not dumbasses-buying-bored-apes-but-at-least-they-have-ownership. Additionally, good luck getting a court recognize opensea as a source of copyright when it's drowning in copyright infringements. I can just mint your NFT somewhere else and it'll be just as valid.
- throwawaycities 5y ago
  > NFTs do not transfer copyrights. Some do, some don’t, the industry standard ”NFT License” transfers limited rights. You seem to pretty confident and feel strongly, but as an example the owners of apes you are calling dumbasses for buying apes and not having ownership, do in fact receive a license to the apes they own. It’s pretty common for infringing NFTs and infringing collections to be removed from OpenSea using DMCA takedown requests. OpenSea is the biggest marketplace in the space and centralized so they have that power (but it doesn’t remove the infringing NFT from the blockchain). Twitter already has a built in DMCA takedown request process and team, I’m sure they will process them for official profile NFTs. And there is always the court as the last resort for copyright infringement, which you don’t seem to believe in. Sure you can copy and “mint” an NFT all you want, no different than any other copyrighted digital work can be copied and reproduced…but you would be violating the law in either case. Why do you think copyright protections don’t apply to NFTs and copyrights can’t be enforced when they happen to be NFTs?
  - dmitriid 5y ago
    > Some do, some don’t None of them do. > the industry standard ”NFT License” transfers limited rights. It doesn't. (Also, there's no "industry standard for NFTs") > but as an example the owners of apes you are calling dumbasses for buying apes and not having ownership, do in fact receive a license to the apes they own. No, they don't. They receive a hash pointing to a location that may or may not contain that ape, ... and that's it. > Sure you can copy and “mint” an NFT all you want, no different than any other copyrighted digital work can be copied and reproduced…but you would be violating the law in either case. And the law has literally nothing to do with NFTs. > Why do you think copyright protections don’t apply to NFTs and copyrights can’t be enforced when they happen to be NFTs? Yes, they do. Yes, they can. And they have to do with the actual art being sold, and have nothing to do with NFTs.

addingnumbers 5y ago

I don't think "overpriced" is a valid criticism of a system built to funnel money from people with disposable income to artists. It seems to reflect a distaste for the entire concept of arts patronage. Other things that are overpriced to a pure pragmatist: getting your name in the credits of a video by a youtube creator you'd like to support. Tickets to a recital for a recent graduate raising money to travel during audition season. Getting a museum wing named after you. Appointing a poet laureate. If you want to live in a world where artists can afford to devote a majority of their time to their art instead of day jobs, you have to tolerate that systems are built to fund them, even if you balk at some of the most sensational price tags or artists' tastes.

egypturnash 5y ago
Patreon is a thing that works to funnel money from people with disposable income to artists without any involvement of The World's Most Inefficient Database, aka "blockchain". It pays most of my bills. The name is literally a riff on "patron".
throwaway17_17 5y ago
NFTs are not being seen or used as a ‘system built to funnel money … to artists’. That maybe one vision you have for them, but it is not the artists getting paid for the NFTs. Some company that is hosting/running/administering a blockchain is getting money. There have been numerous cases and public postings about these companies selling NFTs to buyers and the artist did not know, authorize, or consent to the sale. Sure, maybe that is one possible usage, i.e. artists getting paid for art, but for now there doesn’t seem to be any patronage happening. It’s all corporate press pushes or scammy looking behaviors.
- xkapastel 5y ago
  That's clearly untrue, there are plenty of artists being paid for art with NFTs. Just go on NFT Twitter and look.
throwhauser 5y ago
How much of the money is going to artists though, and how much to opportunistic NFT "drops" of random junk that are borrowing legitimacy from actual artists?

egypturnash 5y ago

Or you can just put it in a hexagonal clipping mask and save it as a PNG, then use that. No need to spend any money on a blockchain. It'll have the same effect of "people who dislike cryptobros blocking you on sight".