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I'm yet to have the 'wow' moment from any recommendation service.... Netflix, Amazon, Deliveroo... At best I get the 'meh why not'. It's obviously a hard proble

I'm yet to have the 'wow' moment from any recommendation service.... Netflix, Amazon, Deliveroo... At best I get the 'meh why not'. It's obviously a hard problem to solve.

loceng 5y ago
If they had the full catalogue of all movies and series ever made then it'd easily be much easier to actually make more relevant recommendations, but their catalogue is actually shrinking as they have less old content they've been able to renew since those content owners have been starting their own streaming services.
- postexitus 5y ago
  Amazon, the book store has everything published under the sun and still cannot recommend something better than "oh, here you go, this is sci-fi as well!".
  - loceng 5y ago
    They arguably don't have your view history though, though their relatively new streaming service will be likely changing that slowly.
Zababa 5y ago
My view on this is that recommendation services are made to try to funnel people to the same thing. While they sell some kind of "hyper personalization", they're just another kind of classic marketing. Especially for Netflix. Talking about series you watched seems to be a big part of watching series, so pushing people to watch the same stuff works better.
o_____________o 5y ago
Try TikTok for a few weeks, genuinely
- ec109685 5y ago
  TikTok is optimized to get as much signal as possible from users, as well as they were smart about getting some signal from the videos themselves: https://www.eugenewei.com/blog/2020/9/18/seeing-like-an-algorithm https://www.eugenewei.com/blog/2020/9/18/seeing-like-an-algo... Something like Amazon gets very little signal after you bought something whether you really liked it or not.
Hokusai 5y ago
> It's obviously a hard problem to solve. Or maybe that is not the problem they are trying to solve. They optimize to sell as much as possible, not to get you the best experience. It's like asking for the most shopped articles that are the ones farther away. Is it difficult to design better supermarkets? Or are they just optimizing for you to spend more time and money inside?
clevergadget 5y ago
tiktok is the only one i think
chrisjarvis 5y ago
What about Youtube? Im surprised to not see them mentioned in any of the comments under yours. For all their faults, I regularly am recommended amazing(ly interesting to me) videos.
- vernie 5y ago
  I read that something like 60 hours of video are uploaded to YouTube every second, so I find it hard to believe that the best stuff they can recommend is the same handful of 9 year old videos I've already watched sprinkled with dogshit right wing American political content.
octodog 5y ago
Soundcloud has amazing recommendations, which is the best feature of the platform in my view. It's so easy to find great music that's related to tracks you already like. I have found literally thousands of new tracks from its 'Station' feature.
fmakunbound 5y ago
I feel like Netflix gave up. All I get is shit I already saw.

I'm yet to have the 'wow' moment from any recommendation service.... Netflix, Amazon, Deliveroo... At best I get the 'meh why not'. It's obviously a hard problem to solve.

loceng 5y ago

If they had the full catalogue of all movies and series ever made then it'd easily be much easier to actually make more relevant recommendations, but their catalogue is actually shrinking as they have less old content they've been able to renew since those content owners have been starting their own streaming services.

postexitus 5y ago
Amazon, the book store has everything published under the sun and still cannot recommend something better than "oh, here you go, this is sci-fi as well!".
- loceng 5y ago
  They arguably don't have your view history though, though their relatively new streaming service will be likely changing that slowly.

Zababa 5y ago

My view on this is that recommendation services are made to try to funnel people to the same thing. While they sell some kind of "hyper personalization", they're just another kind of classic marketing. Especially for Netflix. Talking about series you watched seems to be a big part of watching series, so pushing people to watch the same stuff works better.

o_____________o 5y ago

Try TikTok for a few weeks, genuinely

ec109685 5y ago
TikTok is optimized to get as much signal as possible from users, as well as they were smart about getting some signal from the videos themselves: https://www.eugenewei.com/blog/2020/9/18/seeing-like-an-algorithm https://www.eugenewei.com/blog/2020/9/18/seeing-like-an-algo... Something like Amazon gets very little signal after you bought something whether you really liked it or not.

Hokusai 5y ago

> It's obviously a hard problem to solve. Or maybe that is not the problem they are trying to solve. They optimize to sell as much as possible, not to get you the best experience. It's like asking for the most shopped articles that are the ones farther away. Is it difficult to design better supermarkets? Or are they just optimizing for you to spend more time and money inside?

clevergadget 5y ago

tiktok is the only one i think

chrisjarvis 5y ago

What about Youtube? Im surprised to not see them mentioned in any of the comments under yours. For all their faults, I regularly am recommended amazing(ly interesting to me) videos.

vernie 5y ago
I read that something like 60 hours of video are uploaded to YouTube every second, so I find it hard to believe that the best stuff they can recommend is the same handful of 9 year old videos I've already watched sprinkled with dogshit right wing American political content.

octodog 5y ago

Soundcloud has amazing recommendations, which is the best feature of the platform in my view. It's so easy to find great music that's related to tracks you already like. I have found literally thousands of new tracks from its 'Station' feature.

fmakunbound 5y ago

I feel like Netflix gave up. All I get is shit I already saw.