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>The reality of it is that you may get it for a year max SNAP doesn't have time limits like that. I think you're thinking of TANF which does have time limits.

>The reality of it is that you may get it for a year max SNAP doesn't have time limits like that. I think you're thinking of TANF which does have time limits. > process is demeaning Absolutely. Still, over 10% of people in USA receive SNAP (including myself) and it's why poor people don't literally starve here anymore.

forgotmypw17 5y ago
My experience with SNAP is different from what you describe. So is the experience of many people I have talked to.
forgotmypw17 5y ago
>SNAP doesn't have time limits like that. >I think you're thinking of TANF which does have time limits. No, actually, I am talking about SNAP specifically, the only program I have personal experience with, as well as know people who have also experienced it. If you are in any way "on the grid", SNAP will make you do a mountain of work collecting all your paperwork proof that you actually qualify for it. If you have not given up yet, you MAY get the benefits. In order to claim them, you will have to carefully look for which stores support them (by far not all) and then carefully select the products you're buying, and then argue with the cashier or manager (or put the product back) if it has not been correctly entered into the POS system as eligible. THEN, a year later, you will have to go through a detailed re-certification process, which requires scheduling an appointment for a phone call, making that phone call at a certain time, holding on the phone for an hour before being hung up on, re-scheduling that appointment, and so on, until eventually you MAY then be required to receive a mailing at an address that you have to respond to. Then, and only then, you may receive your benefits for another year. If you cannot list at least 5-10 ways a person must be hugely privileged in order to receive these very basic 200 dollars worth of food credits per month in the text below, please consider yourself extremely privileged to not realize this. Because it requires the ability to be patient and polite to often rude and impatient handlers (a HUGE privilege), having a phone you can call from for an hour, having an address, being able to deal with all this paperwork, and being able to stick with a long and complicated process, one which is more involved and time-consuming than everything which was required of me to operate a single-person contractor business, something I also had experience with just a few years prior. Think about that. You have to do more legwork and paperwork in order to receive "basic" benefits to feed yourself than to operate a business. In a country which is overflowing with food resources (double-digit percent of food thrown in the trash every day).
- DarylZero 5y ago
  Yes, there are many punitive barriers attached to SNAP, WIC, and SSI. You do exaggerate though. > THEN, a year later, you will have to go through a detailed re-certification process, which requires scheduling an appointment for a phone call, making that phone call at a certain time, holding on the phone for an hour before being hung up on, re-scheduling that appointment, and so on, until eventually you MAY then be required to receive a mailing at an address that you have to respond to. Sounds like the kind of shit they do for sure. However, it's not the same thing as a time limit.
  - forgotmypw17 5y ago
    Where did I exaggerate? And how is requiring a process designed to induce "breakage", to use marketing term, not the same thing as a time limit?
    - DarylZero 5y ago
      The term is "churn" and honestly I shouldn't have to explain how encouraging churn is different from having a time limit. I'm not defending the churning tactics in any way, they're very morally wrong.

forgotmypw17 5y ago

My experience with SNAP is different from what you describe. So is the experience of many people I have talked to.

forgotmypw17 5y ago

>SNAP doesn't have time limits like that. >I think you're thinking of TANF which does have time limits. No, actually, I am talking about SNAP specifically, the only program I have personal experience with, as well as know people who have also experienced it. If you are in any way "on the grid", SNAP will make you do a mountain of work collecting all your paperwork proof that you actually qualify for it. If you have not given up yet, you MAY get the benefits. In order to claim them, you will have to carefully look for which stores support them (by far not all) and then carefully select the products you're buying, and then argue with the cashier or manager (or put the product back) if it has not been correctly entered into the POS system as eligible. THEN, a year later, you will have to go through a detailed re-certification process, which requires scheduling an appointment for a phone call, making that phone call at a certain time, holding on the phone for an hour before being hung up on, re-scheduling that appointment, and so on, until eventually you MAY then be required to receive a mailing at an address that you have to respond to. Then, and only then, you may receive your benefits for another year. If you cannot list at least 5-10 ways a person must be hugely privileged in order to receive these very basic 200 dollars worth of food credits per month in the text below, please consider yourself extremely privileged to not realize this. Because it requires the ability to be patient and polite to often rude and impatient handlers (a HUGE privilege), having a phone you can call from for an hour, having an address, being able to deal with all this paperwork, and being able to stick with a long and complicated process, one which is more involved and time-consuming than everything which was required of me to operate a single-person contractor business, something I also had experience with just a few years prior. Think about that. You have to do more legwork and paperwork in order to receive "basic" benefits to feed yourself than to operate a business. In a country which is overflowing with food resources (double-digit percent of food thrown in the trash every day).

DarylZero 5y ago
Yes, there are many punitive barriers attached to SNAP, WIC, and SSI. You do exaggerate though. > THEN, a year later, you will have to go through a detailed re-certification process, which requires scheduling an appointment for a phone call, making that phone call at a certain time, holding on the phone for an hour before being hung up on, re-scheduling that appointment, and so on, until eventually you MAY then be required to receive a mailing at an address that you have to respond to. Sounds like the kind of shit they do for sure. However, it's not the same thing as a time limit.
- forgotmypw17 5y ago
  Where did I exaggerate? And how is requiring a process designed to induce "breakage", to use marketing term, not the same thing as a time limit?
  - DarylZero 5y ago
    The term is "churn" and honestly I shouldn't have to explain how encouraging churn is different from having a time limit. I'm not defending the churning tactics in any way, they're very morally wrong.