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5 deal-breaking flaws in Windows 8

12 points by adeelarshad82 15y ago

Fizzer 15y ago
The author can't decide if he's criticizing Windows 8 as a PC OS or as a Tablet OS. His first point explicitly says "unless you have a keyboard attached" which makes me think he's criticizing Windows 8 as a Tablet OS. But his complaint is that it's hard to manage 10+ open apps at once. This is a deal-breaker for a tablet, really? Someone needs to tell Apple!
- runjake 15y ago
  The author can't decide if he's criticizing Windows 8 as a PC OS or as a Tablet OS. That seems fair given that Microsoft is still in the process of discerning those lines in the OS.
jfoutz 15y ago
I really hate this title. How do you want me to respond, welcome to linux?
- cgranade 15y ago
  That's one reasonable answer, yeah.
runjake 15y ago
I wouldn't call them flaws, I'd call them "unimplemented inevitabilities", but it's good to get people blogging about shortcomings in this DP. Microsoft asked for feedback, let's give it to them, but keep in mind, it's not even a beta yet. If you've used the DP, you know there is still a lot of work to be done.
cleverjake 15y ago
its an alpha. Nothing is really a deal breaker in an alpha, since there is no deal to be broken.
- mrsebastian 15y ago
  Sure, some bits might get fixed/upgraded, but ultimately most of these flaws come down to the fact that Windows 8 is a touch- and tablet-first OS. Of course, MS might find a touch-friendly way of fixing the issues mentioned... in which case, I look forward to it :)
  - cleverjake 15y ago
    What would be difficult to implement in a single gesture/key stroke? 1. app switching 2. closing apps 3. (not really a complaint, just a difference) 4. preform a reboot 5. (again, not really a complaint, just a difference) I dont think there is a single issue raised that couldn't be updated in a single version. As to whether or not they actually do of course is another issue.
  - runjake 15y ago
    I saw nothing here that I didn't already assume they'd fix in a future alpha/beta.
  - Maxious 15y ago
    This preview is just about testing metro apps and hardware integration. It's not about comparing cut and paste touch gestures with iOS/Android. The window switching fix is probably being developed in another branch/build by another Windows team. The full list of teams is available @ http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/08/17/introducing-the-team.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/08/17/introducing-th...
sebbi 15y ago
Very deal breaking ... dramaqueens everywhere ;-)
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lean 15y ago
>1. Multi-tasking If you have a keyboard attached, it's still just as easy. If you don't, you're a tablet, and you don't need it. >2. You can’t close apps So...like Android, OSX Lion, UNIX, etc? Why do I need to close apps? >3. Goodbye Start menu Thank zeus. The only reason I even glance at the Start Menu is because that's where the search bar is. Remember navigating through huge directory trees to launch an app in Win95? You want that back? >4. It’s very hard to reboot and shut down So what? I do that, maybe, once a week? >5. The beautiful Start menu search is dead What?! The (working) search bar was the single greatest improvement to the Win UI in ages. I really hope this is just an alpha thing...
jinushaun 15y ago
Start menu search is still in there. (They even demoed it in the keynote) It's just less obvious to access when you're running Win8 as a laptop. Press the Windows key and start typing, no matter where you are.

12 points by adeelarshad82 15y ago

The author can't decide if he's criticizing Windows 8 as a PC OS or as a Tablet OS. His first point explicitly says "unless you have a keyboard attached" which makes me think he's criticizing Windows 8 as a Tablet OS. But his complaint is that it's hard to manage 10+ open apps at once. This is a deal-breaker for a tablet, really? Someone needs to tell Apple!

runjake 15y ago
The author can't decide if he's criticizing Windows 8 as a PC OS or as a Tablet OS. That seems fair given that Microsoft is still in the process of discerning those lines in the OS.

jfoutz 15y ago

I really hate this title. How do you want me to respond, welcome to linux?

cgranade 15y ago
That's one reasonable answer, yeah.

runjake 15y ago

I wouldn't call them flaws, I'd call them "unimplemented inevitabilities", but it's good to get people blogging about shortcomings in this DP. Microsoft asked for feedback, let's give it to them, but keep in mind, it's not even a beta yet. If you've used the DP, you know there is still a lot of work to be done.

cleverjake 15y ago

its an alpha. Nothing is really a deal breaker in an alpha, since there is no deal to be broken.

mrsebastian 15y ago
Sure, some bits might get fixed/upgraded, but ultimately most of these flaws come down to the fact that Windows 8 is a touch- and tablet-first OS. Of course, MS might find a touch-friendly way of fixing the issues mentioned... in which case, I look forward to it :)
- cleverjake 15y ago
  What would be difficult to implement in a single gesture/key stroke? 1. app switching 2. closing apps 3. (not really a complaint, just a difference) 4. preform a reboot 5. (again, not really a complaint, just a difference) I dont think there is a single issue raised that couldn't be updated in a single version. As to whether or not they actually do of course is another issue.
- runjake 15y ago
  I saw nothing here that I didn't already assume they'd fix in a future alpha/beta.
- Maxious 15y ago
  This preview is just about testing metro apps and hardware integration. It's not about comparing cut and paste touch gestures with iOS/Android. The window switching fix is probably being developed in another branch/build by another Windows team. The full list of teams is available @ http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/08/17/introducing-the-team.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/08/17/introducing-th...

sebbi 15y ago

Very deal breaking ... dramaqueens everywhere ;-)

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lean 15y ago

>1. Multi-tasking If you have a keyboard attached, it's still just as easy. If you don't, you're a tablet, and you don't need it. >2. You can’t close apps So...like Android, OSX Lion, UNIX, etc? Why do I need to close apps? >3. Goodbye Start menu Thank zeus. The only reason I even glance at the Start Menu is because that's where the search bar is. Remember navigating through huge directory trees to launch an app in Win95? You want that back? >4. It’s very hard to reboot and shut down So what? I do that, maybe, once a week? >5. The beautiful Start menu search is dead What?! The (working) search bar was the single greatest improvement to the Win UI in ages. I really hope this is just an alpha thing...

jinushaun 15y ago

Start menu search is still in there. (They even demoed it in the keynote) It's just less obvious to access when you're running Win8 as a laptop. Press the Windows key and start typing, no matter where you are.