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Most do say exactly that, then we have a chat about what they might do instead. Many immediately say, "um, is there a Clear or RemoveAll method?!" It's all over

Most do say exactly that, then we have a chat about what they might do instead. Many immediately say, "um, is there a Clear or RemoveAll method?!" It's all over within a few minutes, we move on. The bigger picture is always going to trump the details, until the day the details have piled up and can no longer be ignored. It's the great big technical-debt elephant in the room.

raganwald 15y ago
I expected that would be the case, just wanted to make it obvious. Meta point: Context matters for code as well as interview questions :-)
sanderjd 15y ago
I think saying "yes, there's a Clear, but what would you do if there weren't", or "yes, there's a Clear - how would you implement it if you made the library?". Interview questions where the right answer is "I know an API or assume something about it correctly" are stupid, but questions where that is the right answer with a more interesting follow-up are not.
- njharman 15y ago
  The answer isn't "I know an API or assume something about it correctly". The answer is "Gawd that's fucking awful, I can't believe there's not a clear() method. I'd go look, before reinventing the wheel. And if lib was internal I'd suggest adding the clear() method instead of adding horrible loops all over the code <mentions DRY>. And if 3rd party lib I'd question the quality and if we really should be using that lib". In otherwords showing confidence, humility, communications, and that they have a clue about quality.
  - sanderjd 15y ago
    Yes, that would be a great answer, and ideally they get to the part you mentioned about adding it to an internal library, to which the next question is, Ok, you're adding it, how do you write it? My point is merely that it's still worthwhile to see an implementation, rather than moving on when you hear the word "Clear".
    - njharman 15y ago
      Any implementation coded up on the fly, from memory in 30 min or less is crap. I don't want to hire people willing to write crap, so I don task them to.

raganwald 15y ago

I expected that would be the case, just wanted to make it obvious. Meta point: Context matters for code as well as interview questions :-)

sanderjd 15y ago

I think saying "yes, there's a Clear, but what would you do if there weren't", or "yes, there's a Clear - how would you implement it if you made the library?". Interview questions where the right answer is "I know an API or assume something about it correctly" are stupid, but questions where that is the right answer with a more interesting follow-up are not.

njharman 15y ago
The answer isn't "I know an API or assume something about it correctly". The answer is "Gawd that's fucking awful, I can't believe there's not a clear() method. I'd go look, before reinventing the wheel. And if lib was internal I'd suggest adding the clear() method instead of adding horrible loops all over the code <mentions DRY>. And if 3rd party lib I'd question the quality and if we really should be using that lib". In otherwords showing confidence, humility, communications, and that they have a clue about quality.
- sanderjd 15y ago
  Yes, that would be a great answer, and ideally they get to the part you mentioned about adding it to an internal library, to which the next question is, Ok, you're adding it, how do you write it? My point is merely that it's still worthwhile to see an implementation, rather than moving on when you hear the word "Clear".
  - njharman 15y ago
    Any implementation coded up on the fly, from memory in 30 min or less is crap. I don't want to hire people willing to write crap, so I don task them to.