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There seems to be more and more cases where the ACLU is putting politics over there previously stated ideals? Does anybody have some organizations that still ho

There seems to be more and more cases where the ACLU is putting politics over there previously stated ideals? Does anybody have some organizations that still hold to their ideals? My understanding is the EFF is still pretty good, but quite limited in scope.

version_five 5y ago
I think it's been harder and harder recently for organization based around some principal to avoid "picking a side". I withdrew support from the CCLA (Canada's ACLU) because I felt similarly, and I now favor supporting direct action, for example GoFundMe campaigns, as opposed to "causes". I actually wonder if this will be a side effect of politicization, ie that fewer people will trust nonprofits to represent their interests and well see more direct involvement in giving. That could be good in some cases, but maybe worse in things like drawn out court cases that you might expect the ACLU to get involved in
Grakel 5y ago
Project Veritas
- ahevia 5y ago
  That’s a good way to waste your money on a low information grift.
- mrtesthah 5y ago
  Sorry to say that’s not a reputable organization. https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_Veritas https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_Veritas
  - gwbrooks 5y ago
    Without debating Project Veritas specifically (I'm not a big fan), I will say that SourceWatch itself is extraordinarily biased. That doesn't make them bad automatically but, like most sources of information, it makes them a bad single source.
    - mrtesthah 5y ago
      OK, what's an information source that you trust? Let's see what they have to say about Project Veritas.
0x7E3 5y ago
I settled on Institute for Justice as an alternative. https://ij.org/ https://ij.org/
josephcsible 5y ago
The EFF has been losing its way too lately, e.g., by being anti-police even in matters unrelated to dragnet surveillance, being anti-Israel, and https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/03/statement-re-election-richard-stallman-fsf-board https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/03/statement-re-election-... It's definitely not as bad as the ACLU yet, though.

version_five 5y ago

I think it's been harder and harder recently for organization based around some principal to avoid "picking a side". I withdrew support from the CCLA (Canada's ACLU) because I felt similarly, and I now favor supporting direct action, for example GoFundMe campaigns, as opposed to "causes". I actually wonder if this will be a side effect of politicization, ie that fewer people will trust nonprofits to represent their interests and well see more direct involvement in giving. That could be good in some cases, but maybe worse in things like drawn out court cases that you might expect the ACLU to get involved in

Grakel 5y ago

Project Veritas

ahevia 5y ago
That’s a good way to waste your money on a low information grift.
mrtesthah 5y ago
Sorry to say that’s not a reputable organization. https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_Veritas https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_Veritas
- gwbrooks 5y ago
  Without debating Project Veritas specifically (I'm not a big fan), I will say that SourceWatch itself is extraordinarily biased. That doesn't make them bad automatically but, like most sources of information, it makes them a bad single source.
  - mrtesthah 5y ago
    OK, what's an information source that you trust? Let's see what they have to say about Project Veritas.

0x7E3 5y ago

I settled on Institute for Justice as an alternative. https://ij.org/ https://ij.org/

josephcsible 5y ago

The EFF has been losing its way too lately, e.g., by being anti-police even in matters unrelated to dragnet surveillance, being anti-Israel, and https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/03/statement-re-election-richard-stallman-fsf-board https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/03/statement-re-election-... It's definitely not as bad as the ACLU yet, though.