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Some sources, you might want to move the heat away (ie, CPU), maybe these loads of pipes they have are the same. But yes, point taken, insulation first. Ockha

Some sources, you might want to move the heat away (ie, CPU), maybe these loads of pipes they have are the same. But yes, point taken, insulation first. Ockhams Razor: don't multiply entities beyond necessity.

jack_riminton 5y ago
I suppose though in the case of the CPU the metric you want to maximise is the heat dispersal not electricity produced. Could work well on things like exhaust pipes
- rocqua 5y ago
  If it works, I think the waste heat from server farms should be the first target.
  - jack_riminton 5y ago
    Yes that'd be good. The figure I'd like to know (maybe I missed it) is how much it reduces the heat by
    - rocqua 5y ago
      It seems like the devices would insulate the server-farm. That might not be worth it, because you'd need extra cooling to offset the higher insulation.
rincewind 5y ago
But if you want to move the heat away from a CPU, wouldn't you want to pump more electricity into the Peliter element to move heat away faster?
- dtx1 5y ago
  On a High-End Desktop Chip? YES! Intel made such a cooler recently[1]. But on mobile/low power devices it might be worthwhile to have them run a little warmer (within spec) but take the heat energy back via a peltier element. Would be interesting to see such an element directly on die feeding back into the chip directly, sort of an electric rebreather for a chip. [1] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000057816/processors/processor-utilities-and-programs.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000...
crackercrews 5y ago
Occam's Razor: no need for the K or H. Just double the C.
- kevinstubbs 5y ago
  Ockham is a totally acceptable spelling which requires all three: C, K and H... See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_of_Ockham https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_of_Ockham

jack_riminton 5y ago

I suppose though in the case of the CPU the metric you want to maximise is the heat dispersal not electricity produced. Could work well on things like exhaust pipes

rocqua 5y ago
If it works, I think the waste heat from server farms should be the first target.
- jack_riminton 5y ago
  Yes that'd be good. The figure I'd like to know (maybe I missed it) is how much it reduces the heat by
  - rocqua 5y ago
    It seems like the devices would insulate the server-farm. That might not be worth it, because you'd need extra cooling to offset the higher insulation.

rincewind 5y ago

But if you want to move the heat away from a CPU, wouldn't you want to pump more electricity into the Peliter element to move heat away faster?

dtx1 5y ago
On a High-End Desktop Chip? YES! Intel made such a cooler recently[1]. But on mobile/low power devices it might be worthwhile to have them run a little warmer (within spec) but take the heat energy back via a peltier element. Would be interesting to see such an element directly on die feeding back into the chip directly, sort of an electric rebreather for a chip. [1] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000057816/processors/processor-utilities-and-programs.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000...

crackercrews 5y ago

Occam's Razor: no need for the K or H. Just double the C.

kevinstubbs 5y ago
Ockham is a totally acceptable spelling which requires all three: C, K and H... See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_of_Ockham https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_of_Ockham