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> this injunction solely prevents them from working at their new company. Actually the headline appears to be just plain wrong, if you look at the other thread

by Natsu 5y ago

> this injunction solely prevents them from working at their new company. Actually the headline appears to be just plain wrong, if you look at the other threads I quoted it there. It doesn't bind the employees who left at all, it asks the new employer to make one person (not necessarily even these folks) available so they can continue to operate. This place deserves to go out of business, frankly. The ruling seems aimed only at making sure that there's someone to care for people who need medical care in the short term, not so much for the benefit of this stupid employer who shot themselves in the foot.

lotsofpulp 5y ago
Then the judge should have forced the company to open its purse. For example, all of the executives’ pay is diverted to the nurses they want until they hire new people. Executives get a heads you win, tails you lose situation for no reason. It was their job to make sure the place is offering sufficient compensation to stay staffed, and if they failed, they need to pay for the damages.
- Natsu 5y ago
  That's just it, they're not getting a "heads I win tails you lose" out of this injunction at all. And they will have to open their purse. ThedaCare shot themselves in the foot by having to pay lawyers, legal fees, get new nurses, pay for any services they hire out of the new company to maintain their capacity, etc. which is going to cost a lot more than they could've gotten with the counter-offer. Meanwhile the workers still get to work for the new place at higher pay. They are not being enslaved at the current place according to the temporary injunction I read. The new place merely has to help the old one provide medical services temporarily (for which they can, and certainly will demand compensation). They absolutely should be firing the ThedaCare management, though. They really screwed this one up badly. The judge seems to be just trying to make sure that the patients of ThedaCare don't suffer for the mistakes of the hospital management. ThedaCare is putting themselves on the hook for plenty of extra costs with this stupidity, and they likely will have to pay significant costs over this for their failures in hiring nurses--and competent management.

by Natsu 5y ago

lotsofpulp 5y ago

Then the judge should have forced the company to open its purse. For example, all of the executives’ pay is diverted to the nurses they want until they hire new people. Executives get a heads you win, tails you lose situation for no reason. It was their job to make sure the place is offering sufficient compensation to stay staffed, and if they failed, they need to pay for the damages.

Natsu 5y ago
That's just it, they're not getting a "heads I win tails you lose" out of this injunction at all. And they will have to open their purse. ThedaCare shot themselves in the foot by having to pay lawyers, legal fees, get new nurses, pay for any services they hire out of the new company to maintain their capacity, etc. which is going to cost a lot more than they could've gotten with the counter-offer. Meanwhile the workers still get to work for the new place at higher pay. They are not being enslaved at the current place according to the temporary injunction I read. The new place merely has to help the old one provide medical services temporarily (for which they can, and certainly will demand compensation). They absolutely should be firing the ThedaCare management, though. They really screwed this one up badly. The judge seems to be just trying to make sure that the patients of ThedaCare don't suffer for the mistakes of the hospital management. ThedaCare is putting themselves on the hook for plenty of extra costs with this stupidity, and they likely will have to pay significant costs over this for their failures in hiring nurses--and competent management.