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Can Google Be Trusted?

18 points by johncena33 5y ago

saurik 5y ago
> Google slams Apple for noncompatibility but can’t even manage to build messaging apps that work with its own messaging apps. BURN
MildlySerious 5y ago
The thing that made me not trust Google with anything I would miss if it was gone tomorrow is a very simple and probably biased one. Whenever a Youtube video is removed or made private, it is also plucked from my playlists and my Liked Videos. They recently started hiding the broken videos in lists altogether, but it really doesn't make a difference anymore. So whenever a video disappears, not only can I not watch it anymore, which is reasonable, but I can't even know what it was that I enjoyed watching without using third party tools. Information just gets plucked from the lists I curated for more than a decade, to the point that a third of the videos is just gone and I have no way of knowing what it is that was taken away, or even that it was taken away at all with the recent change. I find that to be rather invasive, because I specifically created those lists so I don't have to remember. If I can't trust Google to help me remember cat videos and fail compilations, what can I trust it with? It seems like such a trivial thing, mundane even, but it highlights to me everything I need to know that the only one who benefits from giving my data to Google, is Google.
- jmole 5y ago
  Isn't it well within a creator's rights if they want to remove their video from youtube? I mean, I understand the nostalgia, but this is not a "Google" issue.
  - saurik 5y ago
    The comment you replied to explicitly was not talking about the video content being removed but how even the knowledge of the video having been on their list of videos having been removed.
    - cardosof 5y ago
      Exactly, and that is 100% Google's call.
      - alisonkisk 5y ago
      - partomniscient 5y ago
        So just to clarify, its Google's list of videos and not the users, even if the user created said list.
- vasac 5y ago
  And the best part is that they know exactly what videos were deleted and they'll never 'forget' it yet they won't show it to you. Drives me nuts too.
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exolymph 5y ago
No. Glad we had this talk.
vlark 5y ago
Short answer: No. Long answer: Also no.

18 points by johncena33 5y ago

> Google slams Apple for noncompatibility but can’t even manage to build messaging apps that work with its own messaging apps. BURN

MildlySerious 5y ago

The thing that made me not trust Google with anything I would miss if it was gone tomorrow is a very simple and probably biased one. Whenever a Youtube video is removed or made private, it is also plucked from my playlists and my Liked Videos. They recently started hiding the broken videos in lists altogether, but it really doesn't make a difference anymore. So whenever a video disappears, not only can I not watch it anymore, which is reasonable, but I can't even know what it was that I enjoyed watching without using third party tools. Information just gets plucked from the lists I curated for more than a decade, to the point that a third of the videos is just gone and I have no way of knowing what it is that was taken away, or even that it was taken away at all with the recent change. I find that to be rather invasive, because I specifically created those lists so I don't have to remember. If I can't trust Google to help me remember cat videos and fail compilations, what can I trust it with? It seems like such a trivial thing, mundane even, but it highlights to me everything I need to know that the only one who benefits from giving my data to Google, is Google.

jmole 5y ago
Isn't it well within a creator's rights if they want to remove their video from youtube? I mean, I understand the nostalgia, but this is not a "Google" issue.
- saurik 5y ago
  The comment you replied to explicitly was not talking about the video content being removed but how even the knowledge of the video having been on their list of videos having been removed.
  - cardosof 5y ago
    Exactly, and that is 100% Google's call.
    - alisonkisk 5y ago
    - partomniscient 5y ago
      So just to clarify, its Google's list of videos and not the users, even if the user created said list.
vasac 5y ago
And the best part is that they know exactly what videos were deleted and they'll never 'forget' it yet they won't show it to you. Drives me nuts too.

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exolymph 5y ago

No. Glad we had this talk.

vlark 5y ago

Short answer: No. Long answer: Also no.