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*Solutions that nobody anywhere has ever implemented successfully.
by zepto 5y ago
*Solutions that nobody anywhere has ever implemented successfully.
- VictorPath 5y agoAll of human history was workers controlling the means of their production until about 10,000 years ago, when class society was introduced in parts of the world, with one class who worked, and an idle class that did not, expropriating surplus labor time from those who worked. Unexplained labor still exists deep in the Amazon and elsewhere, but mining companies finding new traces of valuable minerals are extinguishing the last of the old free way.
- zepto 5y agoOk, so you want a pre-literate hunter-gatherer society. I say give it your best shot!
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- guerrilla 5y agoIt's almost as if there's a class of people who own most of the world's resources and entire heavily armed states who have an interest in ensuring that failure at all costs, you might say. Then again, it's been tried plenty of times. That's what cooperatives are, family farms are, what you owning your laptop as a programmer are. We just cut down on the coup d'etats and union busting and expand that kind of democratization of the work week to everyone. It's also a silly argument considering you could have said the same before agriculture and before capitalism succeeded.
- zepto 5y ago> That's what cooperatives are, family farms are, what you owning your laptop as a programmer are. These are just different kinds of organization within capitalism. Clubs are a thing too, you know. These aren’t ‘solutions to capitalism’. > It's also a silly argument considering you could have said the same before agriculture and before capitalism succeeded. It’s only a silly argument if someone presents a solution. So far nobody is doing so.