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The original article has so little information about what that case is actually about, it's stiking by its absence. There's discussion about motivations, but no

The original article has so little information about what that case is actually about, it's stiking by its absence. There's discussion about motivations, but no real discussion about any relevant laws. It's like it's from a parallel universe where the entire concept of a legal system doesn't exist.

lotsofpulp 5y ago
https://www.wbay.com/2022/01/20/thedacare-seeks-court-order-against-ascension-wisconsin-worker-dispute/ https://www.wbay.com/2022/01/20/thedacare-seeks-court-order-... This may provide some more information. I, and I suspect many others, are not aware there was any legal mechanism for a government in the US to prevent you from selling your labor to someone else, assuming there is no contract forbidding it.
- maxerickson 5y ago
  The injunction is against the hiring hospital, which is a heavily regulated, licensed entity. I don't have a clue if there is a provision addressing group recruitment in those regulations, but it wouldn't be shocking. In general hospital regulation has lots of room for improvement...there's this idea that more hospitals will be more expensive and that it is good to move services to lower cost facilities. Neither of those make all that much sense. Competition and utilization are good things, not bad things.
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  - derekp7 5y ago
    Can the hiring hospital hire contractors through a contract agency? And if that contract agency happens to employ these nurses, would that violate this ruling?
    - idontknowifican 5y ago
      higher -> hire
  - tedmiston 5y ago
    Is it really "group recruitment" if each of the people applied independently vs being recruited or "poached"?
- Dracophoenix 5y ago
  Inasmuch as I agree with your sentiment, there unfortunately are such restrictions. For example, trade embargos on strongly encrypted software. No US national, whether a citizen or resident, is allowed to sell or freely provide strongly encrypted software to Cuba, North Korea, (North) Sudan, and Iran among others under penalty of law.

lotsofpulp 5y ago

https://www.wbay.com/2022/01/20/thedacare-seeks-court-order-against-ascension-wisconsin-worker-dispute/ https://www.wbay.com/2022/01/20/thedacare-seeks-court-order-... This may provide some more information. I, and I suspect many others, are not aware there was any legal mechanism for a government in the US to prevent you from selling your labor to someone else, assuming there is no contract forbidding it.

maxerickson 5y ago
The injunction is against the hiring hospital, which is a heavily regulated, licensed entity. I don't have a clue if there is a provision addressing group recruitment in those regulations, but it wouldn't be shocking. In general hospital regulation has lots of room for improvement...there's this idea that more hospitals will be more expensive and that it is good to move services to lower cost facilities. Neither of those make all that much sense. Competition and utilization are good things, not bad things.
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- derekp7 5y ago
  Can the hiring hospital hire contractors through a contract agency? And if that contract agency happens to employ these nurses, would that violate this ruling?
  - idontknowifican 5y ago
    higher -> hire
- tedmiston 5y ago
  Is it really "group recruitment" if each of the people applied independently vs being recruited or "poached"?
Dracophoenix 5y ago
Inasmuch as I agree with your sentiment, there unfortunately are such restrictions. For example, trade embargos on strongly encrypted software. No US national, whether a citizen or resident, is allowed to sell or freely provide strongly encrypted software to Cuba, North Korea, (North) Sudan, and Iran among others under penalty of law.