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Cool. Can you say the same for my elderly relatives that would like to spend time around our child? I’m not as worried about the child as I’m worried about him

by nkrisc 5y ago

Cool. Can you say the same for my elderly relatives that would like to spend time around our child? I’m not as worried about the child as I’m worried about him spreading it to someone who won’t be spared.

encryptluks2 5y ago
Is the action of your elderly relatives spending a lot of time around your child worth compromising your child's normal youth and mental health?
- nkrisc 5y ago
  Please elaborate: in what way is our child's normal youth and mental health being compromised? Are you spying on us? How do you know what we're doing?
t0bia_s 5y ago
Vaccines wont give you imminity for spreading virus. Inform yourself, please.
- nkrisc 5y ago
  Of course not, and I never stated as such. That's why even though I'm vaccinated I still wear mask in crowded public places. From the informing of myself I've done, the studies I've seen on the topic so far do suggest reduced transmission by vaccinated individuals. If you know studies that show otherwise, please share them I'd love to read them. We're trying to balance multiple factors: living our life normally, protecting ourselves, protecting family members we still interact with. We take some known risks: sending child to preschool, while taking known precautions: wearing masks, getting vaccinated. If being vaccinated reduces the chance that we might spread the virus to someone, then that's a marginal advantage we'll stack in our favor.
  - t0bia_s 5y ago
    You can find "study" on everything. So it is a matter of trust. I prefer to do study offline and talk with people personaly about their experiences. Oh wait... Is it dangerous? Living normally is probably only one thing that we can do. Vaccines, masks, lockdowns... None works. But if we are daily exposed to news with fear agenda, we will never live normally again. We shoul live, not survive and loose our time. Btw... Reduced chance of spreading virus wont make people immune to catch it. But yet... Gonverments consider vaccinated people as immune. Why?
christkv 5y ago
Even if you vaccinate your kid he will still get it and spread it. I don't understand why this fact is just ignored by people. The vaccine is not sterilizing, it does not stop transmission, only lessens disease severity. The chain of transmissions will only be broken by natural immunity unfortunately.
- nkrisc 5y ago
  The studies I've read suggest reduced transmission ability by vaccinated individuals. If you know of ones that state otherwise please share them, I'd love to read them as well for a broader understanding. If in fact vaccination reduces transmission of the virus, then that's an advantage I'll stack in our favor, among other precautions like wearing masks.
  - christkv 5y ago
    Sure https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116597 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116597 shows barely any reduction in transmissibility for alpha and delta. But but just looking at the numbers in high vaccinated countries already can tell you it. If transmissibility was significantly reduced you would expect this wave to be smaller than the last but it’s bigger. More studies available on https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/search?q=Transmission&restrict_sr=on https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/search?q=Transmission&restr... if you want to deep dive
akmarinov 5y ago
Are they vaccinated and/or have been already sick? If yes, then the chance of them dying is relatively low.

by nkrisc 5y ago

encryptluks2 5y ago

Is the action of your elderly relatives spending a lot of time around your child worth compromising your child's normal youth and mental health?

nkrisc 5y ago
Please elaborate: in what way is our child's normal youth and mental health being compromised? Are you spying on us? How do you know what we're doing?

t0bia_s 5y ago

Vaccines wont give you imminity for spreading virus. Inform yourself, please.

nkrisc 5y ago
Of course not, and I never stated as such. That's why even though I'm vaccinated I still wear mask in crowded public places. From the informing of myself I've done, the studies I've seen on the topic so far do suggest reduced transmission by vaccinated individuals. If you know studies that show otherwise, please share them I'd love to read them. We're trying to balance multiple factors: living our life normally, protecting ourselves, protecting family members we still interact with. We take some known risks: sending child to preschool, while taking known precautions: wearing masks, getting vaccinated. If being vaccinated reduces the chance that we might spread the virus to someone, then that's a marginal advantage we'll stack in our favor.
- t0bia_s 5y ago
  You can find "study" on everything. So it is a matter of trust. I prefer to do study offline and talk with people personaly about their experiences. Oh wait... Is it dangerous? Living normally is probably only one thing that we can do. Vaccines, masks, lockdowns... None works. But if we are daily exposed to news with fear agenda, we will never live normally again. We shoul live, not survive and loose our time. Btw... Reduced chance of spreading virus wont make people immune to catch it. But yet... Gonverments consider vaccinated people as immune. Why?

christkv 5y ago

Even if you vaccinate your kid he will still get it and spread it. I don't understand why this fact is just ignored by people. The vaccine is not sterilizing, it does not stop transmission, only lessens disease severity. The chain of transmissions will only be broken by natural immunity unfortunately.

nkrisc 5y ago
The studies I've read suggest reduced transmission ability by vaccinated individuals. If you know of ones that state otherwise please share them, I'd love to read them as well for a broader understanding. If in fact vaccination reduces transmission of the virus, then that's an advantage I'll stack in our favor, among other precautions like wearing masks.
- christkv 5y ago
  Sure https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116597 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116597 shows barely any reduction in transmissibility for alpha and delta. But but just looking at the numbers in high vaccinated countries already can tell you it. If transmissibility was significantly reduced you would expect this wave to be smaller than the last but it’s bigger. More studies available on https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/search?q=Transmission&restrict_sr=on https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/search?q=Transmission&restr... if you want to deep dive

akmarinov 5y ago

Are they vaccinated and/or have been already sick? If yes, then the chance of them dying is relatively low.