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Why this obsession with anti-Google and no mention of anti-Microsoft?

invalidname 5y ago
Today it's much easier to leave Microsoft than it is Google. Google is becoming pretty evil while Microsoft has improved tremendously since the 90s. Personally I don't use any Microsoft product but I'm stuck trying to leave Google products. Specifically gmail, docs etc.
- zelphirkalt 5y ago
  But gmail and gdocs are actually also quite easy to leave behind. gdocs, just like office 365 are severely limited word processing programs. Every time I have to use one of them, which fortunately is not that often, I find bugs or sluggishness or even breakage. Lots of very ordinary features missing. Mishandling of lists and nested lists (pet peave of mine). Unintuitive handling of styling when a paragraph break occurs and such things. The list goes on. Very sub-par functionality. Most people might not need more, but I personally cannot stand it, when things are directly formatted and formatting rules are not put in styles. It is as if your styled all HTML of a website directly and completely forgot about CSS existing. MS office was always behind on enabling the users to use styles instead of directly formatting every single thing of a kind, when looking at free libre alternatives. Same goes for gdocs. I would not call either of the two "professional".
hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
These two problems (Windows and Office) are already solved - at least for a part of the population. On the other hand, avoiding Google completely is practically impossible.
- zelphirkalt 5y ago
  Don't know about that. I personally do not use any Google services. I don't find it that hard to leave behind.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 5y ago
    Many people think in this way, whereas in fact they are being profiled by Google's services all the time - whenever they send a message to their colleagues via Google, when they visit a website using GA, when someone texts them from an Android phone etc.
    - zelphirkalt 5y ago
      Well, I don't do these things and am just fine without them. Aside from that, those are 2 different things: Google inserting itself everywhere to spy on people and people requiring Google's (dis)services. If a person does not make use of Google services, then it can be argued, that they do not need or require Google services, even, if Google decides to spy on them. Being spied upon does not provide the person with any service and as such, they do not rely on it at all.
- Guessnotgauss 5y ago
  Yes we are almost there, lets get native Linux gaming going! Go steam deck! One day ...

Today it's much easier to leave Microsoft than it is Google. Google is becoming pretty evil while Microsoft has improved tremendously since the 90s. Personally I don't use any Microsoft product but I'm stuck trying to leave Google products. Specifically gmail, docs etc.

zelphirkalt 5y ago
But gmail and gdocs are actually also quite easy to leave behind. gdocs, just like office 365 are severely limited word processing programs. Every time I have to use one of them, which fortunately is not that often, I find bugs or sluggishness or even breakage. Lots of very ordinary features missing. Mishandling of lists and nested lists (pet peave of mine). Unintuitive handling of styling when a paragraph break occurs and such things. The list goes on. Very sub-par functionality. Most people might not need more, but I personally cannot stand it, when things are directly formatted and formatting rules are not put in styles. It is as if your styled all HTML of a website directly and completely forgot about CSS existing. MS office was always behind on enabling the users to use styles instead of directly formatting every single thing of a kind, when looking at free libre alternatives. Same goes for gdocs. I would not call either of the two "professional".

hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago

These two problems (Windows and Office) are already solved - at least for a part of the population. On the other hand, avoiding Google completely is practically impossible.

zelphirkalt 5y ago
Don't know about that. I personally do not use any Google services. I don't find it that hard to leave behind.
- dvfjsdhgfv 5y ago
  Many people think in this way, whereas in fact they are being profiled by Google's services all the time - whenever they send a message to their colleagues via Google, when they visit a website using GA, when someone texts them from an Android phone etc.
  - zelphirkalt 5y ago
    Well, I don't do these things and am just fine without them. Aside from that, those are 2 different things: Google inserting itself everywhere to spy on people and people requiring Google's (dis)services. If a person does not make use of Google services, then it can be argued, that they do not need or require Google services, even, if Google decides to spy on them. Being spied upon does not provide the person with any service and as such, they do not rely on it at all.
Guessnotgauss 5y ago
Yes we are almost there, lets get native Linux gaming going! Go steam deck! One day ...