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This would be born out with a lower average cancer rate in populations that do not drink alcohol. So one would expect cultures that do not of forbid drinking w
by Zenst 5y ago
This would be born out with a lower average cancer rate in populations that do not drink alcohol. So one would expect cultures that do not of forbid drinking would have a lower rate of cancer. Alas it is hard to nail down that date due to various factors and types of cancer and equally, associated health care. So a high cancer death rate in one country compared to another, maybe due to health care as well, so really gets down to diagnosis of cancer and types of cancer. Saying cancer is a bit like saying the flu, there are many variations under that catch-all imbrella label.
In my search for data, about the most intersting for visualisation would be https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/all-cancers/by-country/ https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/all-cance...
Though mindful, health care and with that a better health system would detect more cancer and mind-set of people to seek or be able to approach a health system is a huge factor that only add's to muddy the waters. Hence for me, whilst this maybe a factor, has the data been sanatised for example those that drink and smoke? Those that drink and enviromental factors (air and water quality) and more so, standards of living. Many drink to offset stress caused by many factors and without the details it is hard to nail things down.
So would be more interested in a more granular study and per country's Worldwide. Though if you use the link and look at Alcohol and then the Cancer map, there is defiantly something there. Though very much mindful that one countries reporting of data can be less accurate than another's, as we have seen with Covid reporting early on.
- nraynaud 5y agothe study of mormon communities did actually show a lower cancer rate. I can't find the article anymore, but it's visible in breast cancer rate (I don't remember what the study was controlled for).
- lr4444lr 5y agoLots of confounding variables between Mormons and non-Mormons though, yes?
- nraynaud 5y agoI don't know, it's all about regression on other factors. I'm pretty sure you can find a drinking test population in California that is wealthy and non-smokers too. And you can eliminate coffee with a muslim population.
- jb1991 5y agoI’ve often heard it mentioned that the church of Latter Day Saints is a religious culture that abstain from alcohol and caffeine, and their life expectancy is many years longer than average, by a decade or so, even when they live amongst others in the same country and otherwise have similar environmental influences.
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- enkid 5y agoDo you have any actual evidence of this?
- jb1991 5y agoA quick Google finds lots of articles about it but I have nothing to add myself. I.e. https://www.deseret.com/2010/4/13/20375744/ucla-study-proves-mormons-live-longer https://www.deseret.com/2010/4/13/20375744/ucla-study-proves...
- paulcole 5y agoThey eat sugar like fiends to make up for it.
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- jb1991 5y agoCorrection, it was the Seventh-day Adventist Church I was thinking of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day_Adventist_Church#Health_and_diet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day_Adventist_Church#H...
- paulcole 5y agoThere’s handful of places in the world that were believed to an have an unusually high number of extremely old people and it’s like Loma Linda, California, Okinawa , Japan, Sardinia, Italy, Nicoya, Costa Rica, and Icaria, Greece. Turned out that Loma Linda (because of the Adventists) was the only legit one and the others were just a result of bad record keeping/fraud (people pretending dead relatives were alive to collect pensions). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_zone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_zone