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Would anyone really self report excessive alcohol consumption accurately in China? Isn’t there an incentive to lie to bolster your social credit? Or are there g
by mmmeff 5y ago
Would anyone really self report excessive alcohol consumption accurately in China? Isn’t there an incentive to lie to bolster your social credit? Or are there guarantees in China against medical surveillance?
- gtsop 5y agoI think your question has some very specific variables that aren't really helpful. How about making it more generic: Would people really self report excessive alcohol comsumption accurately?
- b112 5y agoTalking privately to researchers, in China, may mean the government knows, which may effect social credit. This would not happen elsewhere, and thus, is a valid question. Would this effect, uniquely, reported numbers in China? Thus the parent post made a sensible logical point.
- gtsop 5y agoNot really dissagreeing here. But still, the specifics of these variables might derail from the actual question at hand. Do people actually self report accurately regardless of state? That why i just mentioned that i think these specifics aren't quite useful
- b112 5y agoI think, if it is a reputable research company or university or some such, doing a study, which promises privacy with an NDA, yes. They would self report more accurately.
- Schnitz 5y agoYour assumption that excessive alcohol consumption is stigmatized in China is wrong. Drinking is very common and not done in hiding.
- josefx 5y ago
- _hao 5y agoPeople won't show up drunk to work, but KTV company parties or among friends where everyone gets totally hammered are not uncommon in the big cities.
- gtsop 5y agoIs this even a serious question/discussion? I am not pro-china but I can't help but notice the us-induced narrative to just hate-spam russia and china as totalitarian states purely based on the socioeconomic differences. This meme isn't even funny.
- throwawaynay 5y agoThere is a literal genocide going on in China right now, this is not hate-spam. Russia is about to invade a foreign country again. This isn't the US induced narrative, this is literally what's currently happening according to any informed person that is not being paid/brainwashed by the Chinese or Russian government.
- josefx 5y agoI am not claiming that the CCP meetings are full of drunks, I am just asking how far "excessive" alcohol consumption is supposedly accepted behavior. I would be seriously surprised if that was accepted. Sorry for not being clear about that.
- yakshaving_jgt 5y agoChinese people are just like any other people. That’s also true of most of the planet. Have you spent any time living in East Asia? Perhaps you ought to.
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- 88840-8855 5y agoImplying that people here are so happy and proud of being alcoholics... Yeah, but it was expected to hear some "China bad" stuff in a thread about Chinese people - not even the government or the system. Hence, I dont believe you at all when you say "Government bad, people okay".
- RandomThrow321 5y agoI'm sorry, what point are you trying to make? Where is "here" in your first sentence? The social credit system is somewhat unique, and it is not a stretch to say drinking to excess may not be regarded as a favorable characteristic. This may disincentivize individuals from reporting the behavior. I am similarly curious, and fail to see how this is derogatory to either the Chinese government or its people.
- 88840-8855 5y agosource for your claims, please.
- danschuller 5y ago> Drinking alcohol - particularly the potent rice-based spirit bai jiu - plays an important ritualised role in business and government circles in China. from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8350170.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8350170.stm There have been quite a number of stories of death from this. Your assumptions about China are out of sync with reality.