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It doesn't really matter to me who is "causing" them. If Debian is beholden to upstream, then they are not beholden to maintaining my environment, which means i
by forgotmypw17 5y ago
It doesn't really matter to me who is "causing" them. If Debian is beholden to upstream, then they are not beholden to maintaining my environment, which means it is not the distro for me.
- pabs3 5y agoAll distros are beholden to upstreams, this is a fundamental attribute of all of them. Unless the distro develops all of their own interface components and keeps them the same, or forks an existing upstream project wholesale and prevents UI changes. Some of them are starting to do that, but usually they do that so they can change the UI more rather than keeping it the same.
- forgotmypw17 5y agoIt's true, but not all upstreams are doing this sort of thing, and I can avoid the ones who are. It's kind of like choosing friends and partners...
- pabs3 5y agoI'm sure the upstreams that aren't doing these things are also available in the distros you're avoiding, like Debian :)
- forgotmypw17 5y agoYou're right, but what good is that when the distro itself cannot be relied on?
- pabs3 5y agoThe problems you mention upthread seem to be caused by upstreams, not by the distros you were using?
- forgotmypw17 5y agoI disagree. Every distro configures the packages it includes in its own way. Some favor stability and consistency, while others do not. Every distro's Gnome config is a little different, for example. Some have a stable one with consistent keyboard shortcuts, others do not pay as much attention to it. Same goes for other software which is included.