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Counterpoint: if you can avoid it keep FAANG off your resume. I’ve always made sure to hit top-tier pay and a FAANG entry on your CV is an instant disqualifica

by zionic 5y ago

Counterpoint: if you can avoid it keep FAANG off your resume. I’ve always made sure to hit top-tier pay and a FAANG entry on your CV is an instant disqualification.

jruroc 5y ago
The overwhelming majority of companies hiring SWE's do not think this way.
- zionic 5y ago
  Sure, and the overwhelming majority of companies don’t grow like mine do. Or sell for what I’ve exited for. Being mediocre is easy.
- cwalv 5y ago
  And they won't mention the company they work for, so even if you want to go for the one in existence that does you'll never find it. Or maybe there is no such company, and we're just being trolled.
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twy_new_fb_hire 5y ago
Would you mind sharing what top-tier means?
- sockgrant 5y ago
  Spoiler: it’s not top tier.
- zionic 5y ago
  Sure. What I mean by top-tier pay is essentially paying well above average to fewer, higher quality people. I’d rather have 2-3 expert engineers making 2x pay than 10 mediocre engineers making 1x pay. There is a sweet spot where you can scale with one expert in each domain, and if that “expert” is well compensated they can replace an entire engineering dept.
  - cantrememberpw8 5y ago
    I was previously at the top of the salary band for Sr. Software Engineer at a decent big company, making 1.7-2x mediocre engineers I know elsewhere. Joining FB, my total comp (400kish) is an ample 5x mediocre in my area, and I hear thats normal across FAANGs. I know 2x is still ridiculously high, even 1x is a very reasonable amount to live on, but 2x doesn't compare to 5x.
    - zionic 5y ago
      Sounds like you’re making bank now. The problem is that, you sound like are expecting me to respect you. You sold out, sure you got some more cash for your trouble so congrats I guess. I just want you to be honest about what you did.
      - cantrememberpw8 5y ago
        I dont care about your respect... I'm just saying your 'top-tier salary' of 2x doesnt compare with an actual top tier FAANG salary, in my experience.
      - ipaddr 5y ago
        You sold out the minute you agreed to trade your time for money.
      - throwaway014921 5y ago
        Maybe you live in a place where developers have the privilege of being able to pick the right employer among thousands. It's not like that in most of the world. In many places even senior software engineers have to choose between: - nasty companies (advertisement, finance and trading, faangs, real estate speculation, cryptocurrencies, gambling and worse) that provide a living salary and provide a decent working environment - few ok-ish companies that can offer a low salary, very unremarkable conditions and stability - start your company or consultancy and make 0 money - regret working in software and open a grocery store - be unemployed
  - ZephyrBlu 5y ago

by zionic 5y ago

Counterpoint: if you can avoid it keep FAANG off your resume. I’ve always made sure to hit top-tier pay and a FAANG entry on your CV is an instant disqualification.

jruroc 5y ago

The overwhelming majority of companies hiring SWE's do not think this way.

zionic 5y ago
Sure, and the overwhelming majority of companies don’t grow like mine do. Or sell for what I’ve exited for. Being mediocre is easy.
cwalv 5y ago
And they won't mention the company they work for, so even if you want to go for the one in existence that does you'll never find it. Or maybe there is no such company, and we're just being trolled.

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twy_new_fb_hire 5y ago

Would you mind sharing what top-tier means?

sockgrant 5y ago
Spoiler: it’s not top tier.
zionic 5y ago
Sure. What I mean by top-tier pay is essentially paying well above average to fewer, higher quality people. I’d rather have 2-3 expert engineers making 2x pay than 10 mediocre engineers making 1x pay. There is a sweet spot where you can scale with one expert in each domain, and if that “expert” is well compensated they can replace an entire engineering dept.
- cantrememberpw8 5y ago
  I was previously at the top of the salary band for Sr. Software Engineer at a decent big company, making 1.7-2x mediocre engineers I know elsewhere. Joining FB, my total comp (400kish) is an ample 5x mediocre in my area, and I hear thats normal across FAANGs. I know 2x is still ridiculously high, even 1x is a very reasonable amount to live on, but 2x doesn't compare to 5x.
  - zionic 5y ago
    Sounds like you’re making bank now. The problem is that, you sound like are expecting me to respect you. You sold out, sure you got some more cash for your trouble so congrats I guess. I just want you to be honest about what you did.
    - cantrememberpw8 5y ago
      I dont care about your respect... I'm just saying your 'top-tier salary' of 2x doesnt compare with an actual top tier FAANG salary, in my experience.
    - ipaddr 5y ago
      You sold out the minute you agreed to trade your time for money.
    - throwaway014921 5y ago
      Maybe you live in a place where developers have the privilege of being able to pick the right employer among thousands. It's not like that in most of the world. In many places even senior software engineers have to choose between: - nasty companies (advertisement, finance and trading, faangs, real estate speculation, cryptocurrencies, gambling and worse) that provide a living salary and provide a decent working environment - few ok-ish companies that can offer a low salary, very unremarkable conditions and stability - start your company or consultancy and make 0 money - regret working in software and open a grocery store - be unemployed
- ZephyrBlu 5y ago