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Outrage about this is 100 years late. The entire college admissions process as we know it today was designed intentionally to exclude jews from Harvard. https

Outrage about this is 100 years late. The entire college admissions process as we know it today was designed intentionally to exclude jews from Harvard. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/10/10/getting-in https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/10/10/getting-in Edit: 2009 HN Discussion about this article... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=520836 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=520836

jevoten 5y ago
Should we still be outraged about Harvard? What proportion of its students are Jewish, compared to the US overall? It seems the president of Harvard is Jewish*, so it can't be too antisemitic, can it? *In fact, 5 of the 8 Ivy League universities have Jewish presidents, if one follows the links from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League
- nepotisticjews 5y ago
- throwawayarnty 5y ago
  It can still be anti Semitic because you need to compare with the base rate of a peer institution that does not have anti Semitic recruitment practices. Comparing with the overall population is a fallacy.
  - Guessnotgauss 5y ago
    Ok now do the same for all the rest of the minorities. But wait they dont have presidents representing their communities. What you said makes no sense.
- suifbwish 5y ago
  I sometimes wonder what other Semitic cultures think about Jewish peoples claiming “Semitic” as their exclusive word. Antisemitic would mean being against not just Jews but also other cultures that fit into the Semitic definition.
  - vba616 5y ago
    >Jewish peoples claiming “Semitic” as their exclusive word Antisemitic, as a term, was popularized by people who disliked Jews, who wanted a genteel euphemism for opposing Jews. So what semitic really means or what Jews think it means is irrelevant. Once upon a time, people self identified as antisemitic. It sounded nicer than "Judenhass" or whatever. I think I've read that semitic is an obsolete language grouping, not a race or culture, but I'm not sure.

jevoten 5y ago

Should we still be outraged about Harvard? What proportion of its students are Jewish, compared to the US overall? It seems the president of Harvard is Jewish*, so it can't be too antisemitic, can it? *In fact, 5 of the 8 Ivy League universities have Jewish presidents, if one follows the links from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League

nepotisticjews 5y ago
throwawayarnty 5y ago
It can still be anti Semitic because you need to compare with the base rate of a peer institution that does not have anti Semitic recruitment practices. Comparing with the overall population is a fallacy.
- Guessnotgauss 5y ago
  Ok now do the same for all the rest of the minorities. But wait they dont have presidents representing their communities. What you said makes no sense.
suifbwish 5y ago
I sometimes wonder what other Semitic cultures think about Jewish peoples claiming “Semitic” as their exclusive word. Antisemitic would mean being against not just Jews but also other cultures that fit into the Semitic definition.
- vba616 5y ago
  >Jewish peoples claiming “Semitic” as their exclusive word Antisemitic, as a term, was popularized by people who disliked Jews, who wanted a genteel euphemism for opposing Jews. So what semitic really means or what Jews think it means is irrelevant. Once upon a time, people self identified as antisemitic. It sounded nicer than "Judenhass" or whatever. I think I've read that semitic is an obsolete language grouping, not a race or culture, but I'm not sure.