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It is one thing to note. The US "homeland" has not been at play.for a real invasion. Nuclear destruction sure. Limited bombing like Pearl Harbor or 9/11 Not

It is one thing to note. The US "homeland" has not been at play.for a real invasion. Nuclear destruction sure. Limited bombing like Pearl Harbor or 9/11 Not Germans, Japanese, Soviets, North Koreas, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Cuba, China, Vietnam, Korea, Panama, Haiti, Bosnia, Serbia, Loas, Lebanon, Dominican Republic, Bolivia, Cambodia, Granada, Haiti, Sudan, Uganda, Nicaragua. Whereas for Russia it is a near and existential threat, that they have lived through several times.

paganel 5y ago
> Whereas for Russia it is a near and existential threat, that they have lived through several times. I think people tend to forget that detail a lot of times because the history of the WW2 Eastern Front is many times only presented as an after-thought in Western historiography. There are some mentions of Stalingrad, the Leningrad siege, maybe the Kursk tank battle on more technically-inclined web forums, and that's about it. Granted, a lot of the details of the war are either hidden somewhere in some Moscow archives or have been burned to the ground in Germany during the final stages of the war, plus the people who went in that meat-grinder, more exactly through that hell, were not as "interviewed" (for lack of a better term) post-WW2 as compared to the people who had been active in the Pacific or in Western Europe. To say nothing of their (lacking) media presence, in fiction or not (there are countless documentaries about war in Western Europe, less so when it comes to the Eastern Front). I was fortunate enough to have known a close person who had been a soldier on the Eastern Front (he had been active on the Axis side). He and his comrades went through hell, multiple times. Everything around them was hell. I can only imagine that the view from the other side was pretty much the same one.

paganel 5y ago

> Whereas for Russia it is a near and existential threat, that they have lived through several times. I think people tend to forget that detail a lot of times because the history of the WW2 Eastern Front is many times only presented as an after-thought in Western historiography. There are some mentions of Stalingrad, the Leningrad siege, maybe the Kursk tank battle on more technically-inclined web forums, and that's about it. Granted, a lot of the details of the war are either hidden somewhere in some Moscow archives or have been burned to the ground in Germany during the final stages of the war, plus the people who went in that meat-grinder, more exactly through that hell, were not as "interviewed" (for lack of a better term) post-WW2 as compared to the people who had been active in the Pacific or in Western Europe. To say nothing of their (lacking) media presence, in fiction or not (there are countless documentaries about war in Western Europe, less so when it comes to the Eastern Front). I was fortunate enough to have known a close person who had been a soldier on the Eastern Front (he had been active on the Axis side). He and his comrades went through hell, multiple times. Everything around them was hell. I can only imagine that the view from the other side was pretty much the same one.