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The vast majority of murders in most U.S. major cities and in the country as a whole are concentrated in a very small, highly concentrated area of demographic r

The vast majority of murders in most U.S. major cities and in the country as a whole are concentrated in a very small, highly concentrated area of demographic regions, yes, even inside cities. Take these and their socioeconomic factors aside, and the homicide rate plummets for the rest. This is a point that's worth keeping in mind for a highly heterogeneous, "melting pot" country like the U.S that is in many ways quite different from much of Europe. edit: you can verify for yourself my claim about the murders and specific areas for nearly any U.S. city. they're easy to double check. Aside from certain very specific things, the U.S is no less a liberal place than Europe, possibly more so in so many ways.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago
> The vast majority of murders in most U.S. major cities and in the country as a whole are concentrated in a very small, highly concentrated area of demographic regions, yes, even inside cities. that's true everywhere. you don't see many homicides on the Alps here in Italy. The most dangerous city for homicides in Italy is Vibo Valentia (population 33k) at 6 homicides every 100k (still only 60% of LA) Rome is only at 0.5, 12 times less (20 times less than LA, despite a comparable population). It's safe to say that in most neighbourhood in Rome there are zero homicides/year, some areas have seen no homicides in years. Some in decades. Because, as you point out, an average doesn't reflect the situation of single areas of demographic regions. But Vibo Valentia is known for being a city run by the mob ('ndrangheta), a place you don't visit if you come as a tourist, LA is famous for Hollywood and people think it's a glamorous city, while it's actually more dangerous than a mobsters reign in the far south of Italy. There are ~20k homicides every year in the US, >70 times more than in Italy, but the population is only 5 and a half time more than Italy. The fact that homicides in the US are highly clustered, especially in large cities, makes it more dangerous, not less. It happens a lot, to a lot of innocent people. https://www.ansa.it/english/news/general_news/2021/12/03/columbia-university-italian-student-stabbed-to-death_222288e1-66d3-48a9-8954-07903316f452.html https://www.ansa.it/english/news/general_news/2021/12/03/col... Violence is illiberal, by definition.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago

> The vast majority of murders in most U.S. major cities and in the country as a whole are concentrated in a very small, highly concentrated area of demographic regions, yes, even inside cities. that's true everywhere. you don't see many homicides on the Alps here in Italy. The most dangerous city for homicides in Italy is Vibo Valentia (population 33k) at 6 homicides every 100k (still only 60% of LA) Rome is only at 0.5, 12 times less (20 times less than LA, despite a comparable population). It's safe to say that in most neighbourhood in Rome there are zero homicides/year, some areas have seen no homicides in years. Some in decades. Because, as you point out, an average doesn't reflect the situation of single areas of demographic regions. But Vibo Valentia is known for being a city run by the mob ('ndrangheta), a place you don't visit if you come as a tourist, LA is famous for Hollywood and people think it's a glamorous city, while it's actually more dangerous than a mobsters reign in the far south of Italy. There are ~20k homicides every year in the US, >70 times more than in Italy, but the population is only 5 and a half time more than Italy. The fact that homicides in the US are highly clustered, especially in large cities, makes it more dangerous, not less. It happens a lot, to a lot of innocent people. https://www.ansa.it/english/news/general_news/2021/12/03/columbia-university-italian-student-stabbed-to-death_222288e1-66d3-48a9-8954-07903316f452.html https://www.ansa.it/english/news/general_news/2021/12/03/col... Violence is illiberal, by definition.