> Cleveland, which is very close to Lake Erie. It's on the shore of Lake Erie. If it were any closer to Lake Erie it would be underwater! Lake Erie is not so

> Cleveland, which is very close to Lake Erie. It's on the shore of Lake Erie. If it were any closer to Lake Erie it would be underwater! Lake Erie is not so far from Columbus: When I was a prof at Ohio State, my wife and I would go to Lake Erie just for a pleasant Saturday afternoon. So we'd go to Cleveland, ..., Sandusky, etc.