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Only strange part is that I still haven't been emailed about this massive change. It also doesn't appear in the Admin Center.

FfejL 5y ago
Same! I can only assume it's some kind of rolling announcement and they haven't gotten to us yet.
Operyl 5y ago
I didn't get an email either, but given I had to migrate a few organizations together I didn't want to take the bet on if I was affected or not. They're providing free through July, and half off through July 23rd 2023 to me, and I don't mind paying the costs personally, it was always a matter of just not having the time to migrate various accounts together.
blakesterz 5y ago
I'm in the same boat. I have no idea what to think. Maybe somehow some of us are still getting it free? Or somehow they forgot to email us and we're suddenly going to lose access?
- Macha 5y ago
  Wonder if it's a region by region notification. I'm in the EU. I did get an email from google last year that they were updating my account region from undefined to Ireland...
wccrawford 5y ago
I didn't get emailed yet either. I had already been thinking about moving my email anyhow, though, so I've done that now, just in case.
- mxuribe 5y ago
  Curiou, where did you end up migrating to? (I'm likely going to move to zoho...but am always interested to know other options.)
  - wccrawford 5y ago
    I chose purelymail.com after seeing a discussion about it here on HN. Fastmail was my other option that I was thinking about, but Purely was a lot cheaper, and I don't actually use those email addresses much yet.
    - mxuribe 5y ago
      Oh wow, I don't recall ever hearing about purelymail.com. i will check them out; thanks!
  - IMSAI8080 5y ago
    I was going to go Zoho. All I care about as a premium service is reliable email with a custom domain. This looks like it delivers it for either free or £10 a year (depending on requirements). Much cheaper than Google's offer.
    - mxuribe 5y ago
      Same here, i have little to no use for any of google's other services...i just need solid email service with my custom domain name. My early tests with zoho show it to be pretty good. Also, i follow @kevq , and he seems to be happy with zoho: https://kevq.uk/reasons-why-zoho-mail-is-better-than-gmail/ https://kevq.uk/reasons-why-zoho-mail-is-better-than-gmail/ Cheers!
tyingq 5y ago
When you log in, do the terms of service links lead to this page? https://workspace.google.com/terms/standard_terms.html https://workspace.google.com/terms/standard_terms.html It would be interesting if it didn't, which could suggest there's a different free product. "Google Workspace for Nonprofits", for example, seems to be unaffected by this change, and still free.
- nmcfarl 5y ago
  Not the grandparent - but I to have not received an email - and mine terms link does not go there. It goes to this: https://admin.google.com/terms/apps/1/5/en/standard_terms.html https://admin.google.com/terms/apps/1/5/en/standard_terms.ht...
  - daveloyall 5y ago
    Where is the link you are clicking? When I click "Program Policies" on the bottom of my personal-domain Gmail web interface, I get this: https://www.google.com/gmail/about/policy/ https://www.google.com/gmail/about/policy/ and when I click "Terms of Service" on the lower left of the Admin console, I get this: https://admin.google.com/ac/home?tos=true&authuser=2 https://admin.google.com/ac/home?tos=true&authuser=2
  - tyingq 5y ago
    Ah, but it does say "Google Workspace (Free) Agreement", so it seems like exactly the product in question.
pen2l 5y ago
I think the admin account is getting mailed. And uhmmm, that's my issue, I don't remember what even the account name of my GSuite admin is... much less the password.
- echelon 5y ago
  Same. In my book this qualifies as insufficient notice. Until Google mails me mitigation strategies, what can I do? Google doesn't really understand what a lot of folks are even using this stupid product for (custom email domains and that's it).
  - b112 5y ago
    s/understand/care/ They don't care. At all. You are the product, not the customer. Why inform you of anything? Google does this all. the. time. If you use any google product, expect to lose it without a moment's notice, no recourse, and tough beans if you don't like it.
    - b112 5y ago
      Extra info I was not aware of: https://www.androidpolice.com/google-gsuite-free-legacy-class-action-investigation/ https://www.androidpolice.com/google-gsuite-free-legacy-clas... Apparently, all purchases, etc vanish. Or are not transferable at least. It is a little unclear. I say Google is uncaring, but just wow. Wow.
- kevincox 5y ago
  I am the admin account for my org and didn't get anything.
- teejmya 5y ago
  From the FAQ on their site: If the administrator left the company, can a user become an admin? Yes. Current users can ask to become an administrator on the account by completing this form. Users will be required to prove domain registration ownership by creating a custom CNAME or TXT record. If the domain registration verification is successful and none of the existing administrators object, the user will be promoted to the super administrator role.
teejmya 5y ago
Same, no email about this. Time to move anyway.

FfejL 5y ago

Same! I can only assume it's some kind of rolling announcement and they haven't gotten to us yet.

Operyl 5y ago

I didn't get an email either, but given I had to migrate a few organizations together I didn't want to take the bet on if I was affected or not. They're providing free through July, and half off through July 23rd 2023 to me, and I don't mind paying the costs personally, it was always a matter of just not having the time to migrate various accounts together.

blakesterz 5y ago

I'm in the same boat. I have no idea what to think. Maybe somehow some of us are still getting it free? Or somehow they forgot to email us and we're suddenly going to lose access?

Macha 5y ago
Wonder if it's a region by region notification. I'm in the EU. I did get an email from google last year that they were updating my account region from undefined to Ireland...

wccrawford 5y ago

I didn't get emailed yet either. I had already been thinking about moving my email anyhow, though, so I've done that now, just in case.

mxuribe 5y ago
Curiou, where did you end up migrating to? (I'm likely going to move to zoho...but am always interested to know other options.)
- wccrawford 5y ago
  I chose purelymail.com after seeing a discussion about it here on HN. Fastmail was my other option that I was thinking about, but Purely was a lot cheaper, and I don't actually use those email addresses much yet.
  - mxuribe 5y ago
    Oh wow, I don't recall ever hearing about purelymail.com. i will check them out; thanks!
- IMSAI8080 5y ago
  I was going to go Zoho. All I care about as a premium service is reliable email with a custom domain. This looks like it delivers it for either free or £10 a year (depending on requirements). Much cheaper than Google's offer.
  - mxuribe 5y ago
    Same here, i have little to no use for any of google's other services...i just need solid email service with my custom domain name. My early tests with zoho show it to be pretty good. Also, i follow @kevq , and he seems to be happy with zoho: https://kevq.uk/reasons-why-zoho-mail-is-better-than-gmail/ https://kevq.uk/reasons-why-zoho-mail-is-better-than-gmail/ Cheers!

tyingq 5y ago

When you log in, do the terms of service links lead to this page? https://workspace.google.com/terms/standard_terms.html https://workspace.google.com/terms/standard_terms.html It would be interesting if it didn't, which could suggest there's a different free product. "Google Workspace for Nonprofits", for example, seems to be unaffected by this change, and still free.

nmcfarl 5y ago
Not the grandparent - but I to have not received an email - and mine terms link does not go there. It goes to this: https://admin.google.com/terms/apps/1/5/en/standard_terms.html https://admin.google.com/terms/apps/1/5/en/standard_terms.ht...
- daveloyall 5y ago
  Where is the link you are clicking? When I click "Program Policies" on the bottom of my personal-domain Gmail web interface, I get this: https://www.google.com/gmail/about/policy/ https://www.google.com/gmail/about/policy/ and when I click "Terms of Service" on the lower left of the Admin console, I get this: https://admin.google.com/ac/home?tos=true&authuser=2 https://admin.google.com/ac/home?tos=true&authuser=2
- tyingq 5y ago
  Ah, but it does say "Google Workspace (Free) Agreement", so it seems like exactly the product in question.

pen2l 5y ago

I think the admin account is getting mailed. And uhmmm, that's my issue, I don't remember what even the account name of my GSuite admin is... much less the password.

echelon 5y ago
Same. In my book this qualifies as insufficient notice. Until Google mails me mitigation strategies, what can I do? Google doesn't really understand what a lot of folks are even using this stupid product for (custom email domains and that's it).
- b112 5y ago
  s/understand/care/ They don't care. At all. You are the product, not the customer. Why inform you of anything? Google does this all. the. time. If you use any google product, expect to lose it without a moment's notice, no recourse, and tough beans if you don't like it.
  - b112 5y ago
    Extra info I was not aware of: https://www.androidpolice.com/google-gsuite-free-legacy-class-action-investigation/ https://www.androidpolice.com/google-gsuite-free-legacy-clas... Apparently, all purchases, etc vanish. Or are not transferable at least. It is a little unclear. I say Google is uncaring, but just wow. Wow.
kevincox 5y ago
I am the admin account for my org and didn't get anything.
teejmya 5y ago
From the FAQ on their site: If the administrator left the company, can a user become an admin? Yes. Current users can ask to become an administrator on the account by completing this form. Users will be required to prove domain registration ownership by creating a custom CNAME or TXT record. If the domain registration verification is successful and none of the existing administrators object, the user will be promoted to the super administrator role.

teejmya 5y ago

Same, no email about this. Time to move anyway.