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I'm European too but I'm living in the USA because of what Europe is becoming. It does no good to tout fewer homicides if you're boxed in and can't participate

I'm European too but I'm living in the USA because of what Europe is becoming. It does no good to tout fewer homicides if you're boxed in and can't participate in society unless "papers please" and you know this. That is why you are responding defensively by pointing out relative homicide rates between an entire country (Italy) and a singular American city (LA). The USA broader homicide rate is much lower than that. It's 7.8, not 100. And it's a complicated issue because the USA is not a homogenous population like most of Europe is. It is a melting pot of many ideas and cultures and a wider variance in economic statuses depending on the geography you occupy here. Even so, it's still not much higher than Italy's when considered at the country level. You do not live in a liberal union if you cannot travel freely and participate freely without showing your overlords that they have control over your bodily autonomy. That is contradictory. It is not the most liberal place on earth. The United States is still the most liberal place on earth.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago
> It does no good to tout fewer homicides if you're boxed in and can't participate in society unless "papers please" again: this is a stupid argument. It's not even true. Also: "Here Are The U.S. Cities Where You Need A Covid Vaccine To Dine In A Restaurant" https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/12/22/here-are-the-us-cities-where-you-need-a-covid-vaccine-to-dine-in-a-restaurant/?sh=b19466888218 https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/12/22/he... Mandatory vaccine to go to work https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/11/04/fact-sheet-biden-administration-announces-details-of-two-major-vaccination-policies/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases... > The USA broader homicide rate is much lower than that. It's 7.8, not 100 that's per 100 thousand, not per million. > You do not live in a liberal union if you cannot travel freely and participate freely without showing your overlords that they have control over your bodily autonomy. again: stupid. better safe than dead. you're free to die as you wish, it's not liberal to pose other people at risk because you just don't care. Careless stupidity it's not liberal, it's the most illiberal act a society can tolerate. My US friends are shit-scared of what's going on there. Most of them are musicians, they had more than 90% of their shows canceled due to covid in the past 2 years.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago

> It does no good to tout fewer homicides if you're boxed in and can't participate in society unless "papers please" again: this is a stupid argument. It's not even true. Also: "Here Are The U.S. Cities Where You Need A Covid Vaccine To Dine In A Restaurant" https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/12/22/here-are-the-us-cities-where-you-need-a-covid-vaccine-to-dine-in-a-restaurant/?sh=b19466888218 https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/12/22/he... Mandatory vaccine to go to work https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/11/04/fact-sheet-biden-administration-announces-details-of-two-major-vaccination-policies/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases... > The USA broader homicide rate is much lower than that. It's 7.8, not 100 that's per 100 thousand, not per million. > You do not live in a liberal union if you cannot travel freely and participate freely without showing your overlords that they have control over your bodily autonomy. again: stupid. better safe than dead. you're free to die as you wish, it's not liberal to pose other people at risk because you just don't care. Careless stupidity it's not liberal, it's the most illiberal act a society can tolerate. My US friends are shit-scared of what's going on there. Most of them are musicians, they had more than 90% of their shows canceled due to covid in the past 2 years.