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Any chance they're trying to end the practice of tipping for the betterment of workers in the long run?

by voltagedivider 5y ago

NikolaeVarius 5y ago
I too refuse to pay for services to protest the mistreatment of workers.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  Paying the amount you are asked to pay is not refusing to pay for services. Just like any other business transaction.
pessimizer 5y ago
Protesting that workers aren't getting paid by withholding money from workers is a rationalization. In the best outcome, the customer would be paying exactly the same amount that they pay now, or more, it just wouldn't be separated or optional in the bill. You can tell whether people complain about tipping because of fairness or just because they want a discount by whether they also complain about mandatory, fixed percentage tipping, which is really just a service fee under another name.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  I have no qualms paying whatever a vendor wants to label or however they want to itemize the receipt as long as the total number I owe is conveyed to me when I request to purchase something. Also, a customer does not owe workers anything in the USA. Employers owe workers.
- voltagedivider 5y ago
  > In the best outcome, the customer would be paying exactly the same amount that they pay now, or more, it just wouldn't be separated or optional in the bill. I'd pay a premium just to avoid the distasteful master-servant relationship. It's insulting to assume that the customer would enjoy lording over others. > just because they want a discount It never crossed my mind that people do this. That's lousy.
ruined 5y ago
next they'll try to end the practice of wage labor by not paying their employees if that's the goal it needs to be a systemic solution, which generally means or legislation, company policy, or worker organizing. otherwise you're just going around hurting people. if you don't want to tip service workers, stay home, and don't order delivery. remember, that scene in Reservoir Dogs was intended to demonstrate that Mr Pink is a shortsighted asshole.
- voltagedivider 5y ago
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Any chance they're trying to end the practice of tipping for the betterment of workers in the long run?

NikolaeVarius 5y ago

I too refuse to pay for services to protest the mistreatment of workers.

lotsofpulp 5y ago
Paying the amount you are asked to pay is not refusing to pay for services. Just like any other business transaction.

pessimizer 5y ago

Protesting that workers aren't getting paid by withholding money from workers is a rationalization. In the best outcome, the customer would be paying exactly the same amount that they pay now, or more, it just wouldn't be separated or optional in the bill. You can tell whether people complain about tipping because of fairness or just because they want a discount by whether they also complain about mandatory, fixed percentage tipping, which is really just a service fee under another name.

lotsofpulp 5y ago
I have no qualms paying whatever a vendor wants to label or however they want to itemize the receipt as long as the total number I owe is conveyed to me when I request to purchase something. Also, a customer does not owe workers anything in the USA. Employers owe workers.
voltagedivider 5y ago
> In the best outcome, the customer would be paying exactly the same amount that they pay now, or more, it just wouldn't be separated or optional in the bill. I'd pay a premium just to avoid the distasteful master-servant relationship. It's insulting to assume that the customer would enjoy lording over others. > just because they want a discount It never crossed my mind that people do this. That's lousy.

ruined 5y ago

next they'll try to end the practice of wage labor by not paying their employees if that's the goal it needs to be a systemic solution, which generally means or legislation, company policy, or worker organizing. otherwise you're just going around hurting people. if you don't want to tip service workers, stay home, and don't order delivery. remember, that scene in Reservoir Dogs was intended to demonstrate that Mr Pink is a shortsighted asshole.

voltagedivider 5y ago
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