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One can be anti-mandate without being anti-vaccine. One can be pro-therapeutic without being anti-vaccine. One can be pro-investigation of therapeutics without
by sanedigital 5y ago
One can be anti-mandate without being anti-vaccine. One can be pro-therapeutic without being anti-vaccine. One can be pro-investigation of therapeutics without being anti-vaccine. One can be pro-doctoral autonomy (with regards to off label prescription) without being anti-vaccine.
I'm thankful for the vaccine, it's saved a lot of lives, especially of those at high risk. I don't think it should be mandated and I certainly don't think it should be given to children. I think we should be investing as much into early treatment as we are into vaccines. We certainly shouldn't be limiting access to things that have been proven to work, like monoclonal anti-bodies. I think things like Ivermectin should be investigated for use. I don't think we should be calling it "horse dewormer" when it's an FDA-approved medication with billions of doses distributed worldwide. And while we shouldn't be promoting anything that isn't proven, we shouldn't be sanctioning physicians for prescribing a safe drug off-label.
In short: yes, the opposite side of the political spectrum is more diverse than you're currently accounting for. Lumping "the other" into a single category is natural and well described by Social Identity Theory [1], but not helpful to discussions like this.
[1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_identity_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_identity_theory]
- loxias 5y ago> One can be anti-mandate without being anti-vaccine. One can be pro-therapeutic without being anti-vaccine. One can be pro-investigation of therapeutics without being anti-vaccine. One can be pro-doctoral autonomy (with regards to off label prescription) without being anti-vaccine. Hear hear! More of this. I am nearly all of these things. I'm staunchly pro "let's quit lumping concepts and people into an absurdly small number of categories". And staunchly against "everyone who believes X, Y and Z must ALSO believe Q R S T U... or you're out".
- croon 5y ago> One can be anti-mandate without being anti-vaccine. One can be pro-therapeutic without being anti-vaccine. One can be pro-investigation of therapeutics without being anti-vaccine. One can be pro-doctoral autonomy (with regards to off label prescription) without being anti-vaccine. Sure, I agree with that, and neither of those were in the quote I responded to, which is why I asked about "that specific generalization". Is there anyone taking Ivermectin that also isn't anti-vaccine, right of center politically, and don't know that the risks with vaccines are also the risks of covid itself, only lower with vaccines? I'm asking because here I think the issue is deeper than the generalizations, in that politics has engulfed views (science/anti-science) that shouldn't be political to begin with.
- s1artibartfast 5y agoI know many people who either: 1) took ivermectin prophylactically when the vaccine wasn't available, and also got the vaccine when it was. 2) are now vaccinated and have ivermectin on standby in case they test positive. I know nobody who is currently unvaccinated and still taking ivermectin as prophylactic
- croon 5y agoI stand corrected, I have yet to encounter that nuance, and we have often enter into political discussions at work and socially, but sadly all too formulaic in the end.
- s1artibartfast 5y agoI would also add that there are thousands of Americans being enrolled in FDA approved well-controlled medical trials for the use of Ivermectin at some of the most prestigious medical hospitals in the US. Of course, this doesn't mean it works. We are doing the trials specifically because we don't know if it works or not, but reasonably believe that it could
- evv555 5y ago>Is there anyone taking Ivermectin that also isn't anti-vaccine, right of center politically, and don't know that the risks with vaccines are also the risks of covid itself, only lower with vaccines? I'm vaccinated and would consider taking Ivermectin/Fluvoxamine if I become infected and detect it early enough. I also make sure to supplement with Vit D/Vit C/Zinc pre-emptively even though these are vaguely associated with "antivaxxer" now.