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My local city-owned provider ("Stadtwerke" as the general term; I'm in a large city in Bavaria) and my contract details are Less than 1.400 kWh / year Price

My local city-owned provider ("Stadtwerke" as the general term; I'm in a large city in Bavaria) and my contract details are Less than 1.400 kWh / year Price 30,27 ct / kWh Base price 89,28 € / year Online-Bonus 10,00 € / year More than 1.400 kWh / year Price 27,92 ct / kWh Base price 122,52 € / year Online-Bonus 20,00 € / year I took the standard package and never shopped around. I'm using around this 1400 threshold. It was >1600 before I switched the energy-guzzling graphics card for a minimal one (I don't play games and videos are the only thing utilizing it a bit, on the 32 inch screen). Apart from the PC and 32 inch monitor an Italian all-metal and heat-radiating portafilter espresso maker (with E61 brew group, whose 1961 design did not care about energy efficiency, unfortunately) is the largest contributor to my bill. Lighting is negligible, heating is for the whole apartment building and gas-powered.

PinguTS 5y ago
Looks like we share the same city even as I am not in that city anymore but still serviced by the same company directly and not as a reseller.
NanoCoaster 5y ago
If you don't mind me asking, which city? I'm in Regensburg and recently got moved to my munincipal provider because my former provider closed shop and it's looking...bleak. We're talking ~60+ct / kWh.
- nosianu 5y ago
  N-Ergie, Nürnberg (Nuremberg) https://www.n-ergie.de https://www.n-ergie.de
  - NanoCoaster 5y ago
    Thanks, very interesting. Should've stayed in Nürnberg, I suppose :)
    - PinguTS 5y ago
      Yes, as they service only their own area and do not act as a reseller. As from the latest newsletter I've got they are 100% sustainable and source everything themself without anything to buy in from nuclear, coal, and gas. That's the reason why they don't offer anymore the ecofriendly tariff, because they are 100% anyhow.
  - FL410 5y ago
    Good to know that the "energy" pun is versatile enough to translate! https://www.nrg.com/ https://www.nrg.com/
secondcoming 5y ago
'Base price' is what's called a 'Standing Charge' in the UK? (it's a flat daily fee you pay regardless of your gas/electricity usage)
- PinguTS 5y ago
  No, Base price is basically for renting the meter (and maybe some other internal fees).
- suction 5y ago
  It's a service charge. They say it's a rental fee for the meter. Just one of those scams that are allowed to go on because nobody bothers to take them to court for it. ISPs are doing it too, i.e. charging a monthly fee for the DSL modem they install in your flat.
eqvinox 5y ago
+1, living in a large-ish German city, that aligns with what I pay at home. For the generally curious, you can go to https://www.verivox.de/ https://www.verivox.de/ click on "Strom" (= electricity), type in a german postcode (grab one off google maps, 5-digit number), and type in a kWh / year number. (The "number of persons" is just a fill-in aid for the kWh/yr.) That said, these numbers are entirely useless for discussions around a hoster like Hetzner — they're end user prices.

PinguTS 5y ago

Looks like we share the same city even as I am not in that city anymore but still serviced by the same company directly and not as a reseller.

NanoCoaster 5y ago

If you don't mind me asking, which city? I'm in Regensburg and recently got moved to my munincipal provider because my former provider closed shop and it's looking...bleak. We're talking ~60+ct / kWh.

nosianu 5y ago
N-Ergie, Nürnberg (Nuremberg) https://www.n-ergie.de https://www.n-ergie.de
- NanoCoaster 5y ago
  Thanks, very interesting. Should've stayed in Nürnberg, I suppose :)
  - PinguTS 5y ago
    Yes, as they service only their own area and do not act as a reseller. As from the latest newsletter I've got they are 100% sustainable and source everything themself without anything to buy in from nuclear, coal, and gas. That's the reason why they don't offer anymore the ecofriendly tariff, because they are 100% anyhow.
- FL410 5y ago
  Good to know that the "energy" pun is versatile enough to translate! https://www.nrg.com/ https://www.nrg.com/

secondcoming 5y ago

'Base price' is what's called a 'Standing Charge' in the UK? (it's a flat daily fee you pay regardless of your gas/electricity usage)

PinguTS 5y ago
No, Base price is basically for renting the meter (and maybe some other internal fees).
suction 5y ago
It's a service charge. They say it's a rental fee for the meter. Just one of those scams that are allowed to go on because nobody bothers to take them to court for it. ISPs are doing it too, i.e. charging a monthly fee for the DSL modem they install in your flat.

eqvinox 5y ago

+1, living in a large-ish German city, that aligns with what I pay at home. For the generally curious, you can go to https://www.verivox.de/ https://www.verivox.de/ click on "Strom" (= electricity), type in a german postcode (grab one off google maps, 5-digit number), and type in a kWh / year number. (The "number of persons" is just a fill-in aid for the kWh/yr.) That said, these numbers are entirely useless for discussions around a hoster like Hetzner — they're end user prices.