3 ms·

They did look at the statistics and the statistics say women are more likely to be injured because they are more likely to walk. "An analysis of Sweden’s snow

They did look at the statistics and the statistics say women are more likely to be injured because they are more likely to walk. "An analysis of Sweden’s snow clearance practices showed that it disadvantaged women, who were more likely to walk, while employment districts where men predominantly worked were more likely to have streets plowed first." > What about the emergency doctors trying to reach patients on roads that are not cleared? Generally not a problem, snow is cleared from roads quite promptly all over Scandinavia. I've lived in Norway for nearly forty years and have never been able to call my employer saying that I can't get to work (22 km away) because of snow or ice. It has never even been a cause of me being late for work.

Consultant32452 5y ago
I'm confused by these competing narratives: > Plow the sidewalks first because of the social preference to protect women > Emergency services are not impacted because snow is cleared from the roads promptly Either we sacrificed men/drivers in favor of women/walkers or we just did more snow clearing.
- b112 5y ago
  Probably, people cleared the roads first (here in Canada this is at 4am typically, and again and again if it is still snowing). Then, as clearing the roads throws snow large volumes of and such everywhere, later the sidewalk clearers show up. So now they probably just had the sidewalk clearers start work earlier, and clean an extra time, problem seemingly solved.
  - Consultant32452 5y ago
    That seems like a very reasonable interpretation. I would add that they had. preference for making the roads safe because the roads have thousand pound death machines, and later increased the safety actions to improve the lives of people who might fall down. It was very weird to toss gender in, but this is the 2020s I guess.
- Symbiote 5y ago
  The video said cars are better able to drive on a small amount of snow, so maybe they rely on that for ambulances etc.
gambiting 5y ago
>>I've lived in Norway for nearly forty years and have never been able to call my employer saying that I can't get to work (22 km away) because of snow or ice. It has never even been a cause of me being late for work. That's how it should be really. Having lived in some really cold countries, people just....go about with their day. Snow on the road? Have winter tyres and/or chains, it's really not a big deal. Now I live in the UK and it's hilarious(and sad) to see offices, schools and kindergadens close when there is FROST on the road - not even snow, just the temperatures are below zero, things are a bit frozen, so my kindergarden calls me up not to come in today because they determined it's too dangerous for parents to drive in. Like....what??? I know everyone in this country uses summer tyres all year round but sheesh, just....get a grip(pun not intended). When there is actual snow on the road(and I mean like....1 inch of it) it's like apocalypse hit, police advise people not to leave their homes, no one knows how to drive(or if they do they inevitably drive 3mph, even thought he road has been cleared and salted)......I know it's "unusual", but it's not like Egypt where they see snow once in 20 years - it does snow pretty much every year for a few days.
- jdmoreira 5y ago
  We once flew from Stockholm to London to conduct some user interviews. And it was snowing in London and it was exactly like you described. Half our interviews got cancelled, everyone was panicking because of the weather, chaos everywhere. We just laugh!
- pmyteh 5y ago
  Yeah, there's a lot of adaptation to local norms. We don't have much snow-clearing equipment because it's so rarely needed (and no-one wants to pay taxes to have it just on the off-chance). Scotland does better because they have more. We have a similar issue with heat-related rail buckling closing lines in the summer. If you run a railway in Morocco it's a lot hotter and you never close lines for that reason - but that's because the tension of the rails there is adjusted for hotter temperatures. A hard frost would cause Moroccan rails to fracture as they shrank, while ours remain within tolerance.
- feintruled 5y ago
  Well, counterpoint, is it really worth putting in place all the infrastructure and planning for the relatively few days it's frosty? Maybe it's more economical to just take the hit of the days off.

Consultant32452 5y ago

I'm confused by these competing narratives: > Plow the sidewalks first because of the social preference to protect women > Emergency services are not impacted because snow is cleared from the roads promptly Either we sacrificed men/drivers in favor of women/walkers or we just did more snow clearing.

b112 5y ago
Probably, people cleared the roads first (here in Canada this is at 4am typically, and again and again if it is still snowing). Then, as clearing the roads throws snow large volumes of and such everywhere, later the sidewalk clearers show up. So now they probably just had the sidewalk clearers start work earlier, and clean an extra time, problem seemingly solved.
- Consultant32452 5y ago
  That seems like a very reasonable interpretation. I would add that they had. preference for making the roads safe because the roads have thousand pound death machines, and later increased the safety actions to improve the lives of people who might fall down. It was very weird to toss gender in, but this is the 2020s I guess.
Symbiote 5y ago
The video said cars are better able to drive on a small amount of snow, so maybe they rely on that for ambulances etc.

gambiting 5y ago

>>I've lived in Norway for nearly forty years and have never been able to call my employer saying that I can't get to work (22 km away) because of snow or ice. It has never even been a cause of me being late for work. That's how it should be really. Having lived in some really cold countries, people just....go about with their day. Snow on the road? Have winter tyres and/or chains, it's really not a big deal. Now I live in the UK and it's hilarious(and sad) to see offices, schools and kindergadens close when there is FROST on the road - not even snow, just the temperatures are below zero, things are a bit frozen, so my kindergarden calls me up not to come in today because they determined it's too dangerous for parents to drive in. Like....what??? I know everyone in this country uses summer tyres all year round but sheesh, just....get a grip(pun not intended). When there is actual snow on the road(and I mean like....1 inch of it) it's like apocalypse hit, police advise people not to leave their homes, no one knows how to drive(or if they do they inevitably drive 3mph, even thought he road has been cleared and salted)......I know it's "unusual", but it's not like Egypt where they see snow once in 20 years - it does snow pretty much every year for a few days.

jdmoreira 5y ago
We once flew from Stockholm to London to conduct some user interviews. And it was snowing in London and it was exactly like you described. Half our interviews got cancelled, everyone was panicking because of the weather, chaos everywhere. We just laugh!
pmyteh 5y ago
Yeah, there's a lot of adaptation to local norms. We don't have much snow-clearing equipment because it's so rarely needed (and no-one wants to pay taxes to have it just on the off-chance). Scotland does better because they have more. We have a similar issue with heat-related rail buckling closing lines in the summer. If you run a railway in Morocco it's a lot hotter and you never close lines for that reason - but that's because the tension of the rails there is adjusted for hotter temperatures. A hard frost would cause Moroccan rails to fracture as they shrank, while ours remain within tolerance.
feintruled 5y ago
Well, counterpoint, is it really worth putting in place all the infrastructure and planning for the relatively few days it's frosty? Maybe it's more economical to just take the hit of the days off.