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Suppose you go on YouTube and it recommends you a video that is similar to the ones that you liked. This is a targeted ad. Would you like to ban it?

notRobot 5y ago
That is decidedly not a "targeted ad". Recommendations are different.
- eterevsky 5y ago
  I agree that there is a difference, but it's pretty hard to define. YouTube videos are a product, the creators are earning money from your views one way or another. If you ban targeted ads while allowing recommendations, Facebook will just claim that it shows you targeted recommendations.
usrbinbash 5y ago
This can easily be done with contextual advertising, wich requires no user tracking. I have no problem with a shop showing me eg. an ad-banner for a gym membership if I happen to buy lots of sports wear in that shop. However, if a website I never visited before shows me the same ads, data collection happened, and that should either be banned, or made into strict opt-on-only.
- eterevsky 5y ago
  When you open the YouTube front page, there is no context except for what YouTube already knows about your preferences. If this situation I would prefer to receive video recommendations based on my past preferences, which could be considered targeted ads.
  - usrbinbash 5y ago
    > When you open the YouTube front page, there is no context Yes there is: My useraccount. Ideally, if I am logged in, and if I consented that they may show me videos based on my preferences, I would be okay with them may recommending videos to me and refining these recommendations based on my views. The consent should of course be opt-in only (eg. a simple switch in the account settings). Using this information for recommending videos within that pages context only != Targeted advertising. As long as the information never leaves their page, is used in no other page of their ecosystem, and as long as I can tell them to stop collecting it, delete what they already have, and are guaranteed by law that they keep no connection between that data and any identifying information other than my useraccount, I would be okay with that. And yes, when I visit youtube without being logged in, I would be perfectly okay with having no/default recommendations, or recommendations based on the context of that page visit only.

notRobot 5y ago

That is decidedly not a "targeted ad". Recommendations are different.

eterevsky 5y ago
I agree that there is a difference, but it's pretty hard to define. YouTube videos are a product, the creators are earning money from your views one way or another. If you ban targeted ads while allowing recommendations, Facebook will just claim that it shows you targeted recommendations.

usrbinbash 5y ago

This can easily be done with contextual advertising, wich requires no user tracking. I have no problem with a shop showing me eg. an ad-banner for a gym membership if I happen to buy lots of sports wear in that shop. However, if a website I never visited before shows me the same ads, data collection happened, and that should either be banned, or made into strict opt-on-only.

eterevsky 5y ago
When you open the YouTube front page, there is no context except for what YouTube already knows about your preferences. If this situation I would prefer to receive video recommendations based on my past preferences, which could be considered targeted ads.
- usrbinbash 5y ago
  > When you open the YouTube front page, there is no context Yes there is: My useraccount. Ideally, if I am logged in, and if I consented that they may show me videos based on my preferences, I would be okay with them may recommending videos to me and refining these recommendations based on my views. The consent should of course be opt-in only (eg. a simple switch in the account settings). Using this information for recommending videos within that pages context only != Targeted advertising. As long as the information never leaves their page, is used in no other page of their ecosystem, and as long as I can tell them to stop collecting it, delete what they already have, and are guaranteed by law that they keep no connection between that data and any identifying information other than my useraccount, I would be okay with that. And yes, when I visit youtube without being logged in, I would be perfectly okay with having no/default recommendations, or recommendations based on the context of that page visit only.