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> Microsoft has used its dominant position to charge for MS Office in perpetuity You can still buy a definitive, noncloud, without subscription of MS Office, a

• robertlagrant 5y ago
  Actually, having this plus using something like Confluence for internal documents is quite appealing.
  • southerntofu 5y ago
    If you're willing to pay for a license, why not donate to the document foundation instead? This way you get a great office suite (Libreoffice) and every one gets it too. A win-win situation?
    • robertlagrant 5y ago
      Perhaps; I use LibreOffice myself. I was thinking of a business doing that rather than me personally.
    • ivanmontillam 5y ago
      Unfortunately in this case, the UI/UX of LibreOffice not even comes close to MS Office's one. Some FOSS products are that great, but if you come from MS Office, LibreOffice feels a lot like an early 2000's downgrade. The compatibility and robustness of LibreOffice is excellent, but the UI/UX and something as simple as the default design templates that come with it, it's just not up to the level of MS Office, and customers do judge by that criteria. I wish LibreOffice was up that standard, so there would be more consumer choice. I even tried LibreOffice as my daily driver for sometime, and I just couldn't stand it.
      • justsomehnguy 5y ago
        > the UI/UX of LibreOffice not even comes close to MS Office's one. Except 'Import CSV' wizard, it's light years ahead of MSO's one, which didn't changed for two decades. Which is understandable, nobody [from the corporate customers with tens thousands of users] cried loud enough. Also it doesn't even look good. MSO would use ClearType (and whatever) and looks good, LO looks like I'm in 1995 looking at 640x480 14" monitor.
• MerelyMortal 5y ago
  Microsoft is still taking away options and raising the price. For example, I used to buy a non-cloud/non-subscription license through the Home Use Program. It used to be relatively cheap. Now that option is not available, they only sell a slightly discounted cloud/subscription ($60/year vs $99/year).
  • CubsFan1060 5y ago
    So not only are subscriptions "bad", but they are not allowed to raise their prices either?
    • MerelyMortal 5y ago
      Their non-cloud/non-subscription license is still the same price, they just removed the discounted option and replaced it with a higher priced subscription option. It looks like they want to dissuade as many people as possible from their non-cloud/non-subscription option.
• tallanvor 5y ago
  Yeah, I don't understand their claim around Microsoft either. They're still offering perpetual licenses, and sure, they're integrating OneDrive a lot, but you can still save a document wherever you want on your computer and last I checked, Save As works the same way it always has.
  • hackerfromthefu 5y ago
    The office Save As dialogs have been butchered to make saving to your local drives take many more clicks off the primary path. It's dark patterns ui to force people to cloud and azure rather than defaulting to local storage. It's been this way for at least a few years and I think actually near half a dozen.