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> I want a simple life where I program and run programs... I feel like this is an oversimplification. The company I work for has tens of thousands of concurre

> I want a simple life where I program and run programs... I feel like this is an oversimplification. The company I work for has tens of thousands of concurrent users, plus dozens (hundreds?) of business partners all of whom are integrating with our platform. We are not serving static HTML pages like StackOverflow, we have dynamic content and our customers want up-to-date analytics. So.. how am I supposed to "program and run programs" in this environment? You act like we invent complexity for no reason, but we are dealing with scale and "I want a simple life where I program and run programs" is like saying: "I want an easier job." Cool. They are out there. They probably don't pay as well. Meanwhile I'm going to try and fix the mess someone made 8 years ago in the monolith so the business paying my bills can keep making money. it ain't pretty, but its a living.

dmitriid 5y ago
> You act like we invent complexity for no reason, but we are dealing with scale 1. Yes, we do invent complexity for no reason 2. The absolute vast majority of us don't deal with "scale" and most of the things we do can be done with a single beefy server (even for "tens of thousands of concurrent users") 3. Sayin that all SO does is serving static html pages is hugely disingenuous at best
- mrweasel 5y ago
  > The absolute vast majority of us don't deal with "scale" and most of the things we do can be done with a single beefy server Most simply fail to understand exactly what modern servers are capable of. We continue to read article after article about "scaling out", but you're right, the vast majority will never have the need to scale beyond just a few servers.
  - immibis 5y ago
    I remember seeing that Stack Overflow runs on half a rack of servers, plus a redundant copy. https://nickcraver.com/blog/2016/03/29/stack-overflow-the-hardware-2016-edition/ https://nickcraver.com/blog/2016/03/29/stack-overflow-the-ha... I bet most people are running sites smaller than Stack Overflow (Alexa rank #65 [did you know Alexa is getting permanently shut down in a few months?!]).
jack_riminton 5y ago
> The company I work for has tens of thousands of concurrent users, plus dozens (hundreds?) of business partners all of whom are integrating with our platform. > We are not serving static HTML pages like StackOverflow, we have dynamic content and our customers want up-to-date analytics. Yeah that can all still be done with a simple monolithic CRUD app on just a few servers

dmitriid 5y ago

> You act like we invent complexity for no reason, but we are dealing with scale 1. Yes, we do invent complexity for no reason 2. The absolute vast majority of us don't deal with "scale" and most of the things we do can be done with a single beefy server (even for "tens of thousands of concurrent users") 3. Sayin that all SO does is serving static html pages is hugely disingenuous at best

mrweasel 5y ago
> The absolute vast majority of us don't deal with "scale" and most of the things we do can be done with a single beefy server Most simply fail to understand exactly what modern servers are capable of. We continue to read article after article about "scaling out", but you're right, the vast majority will never have the need to scale beyond just a few servers.
- immibis 5y ago
  I remember seeing that Stack Overflow runs on half a rack of servers, plus a redundant copy. https://nickcraver.com/blog/2016/03/29/stack-overflow-the-hardware-2016-edition/ https://nickcraver.com/blog/2016/03/29/stack-overflow-the-ha... I bet most people are running sites smaller than Stack Overflow (Alexa rank #65 [did you know Alexa is getting permanently shut down in a few months?!]).

jack_riminton 5y ago

> The company I work for has tens of thousands of concurrent users, plus dozens (hundreds?) of business partners all of whom are integrating with our platform. > We are not serving static HTML pages like StackOverflow, we have dynamic content and our customers want up-to-date analytics. Yeah that can all still be done with a simple monolithic CRUD app on just a few servers