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Why is eating your tentacle useful when "stressed"? Eating your tentacle is a net negative in "calories" long term, and there is probably the opportunity cost

Why is eating your tentacle useful when "stressed"? Eating your tentacle is a net negative in "calories" long term, and there is probably the opportunity cost of not having said tentacle (for some time?) I guess maybe they want a quick snack for the high energy jet propulsion predator escape that they are preparing for when stressed. But then Hesoid is kid of right, they do eat it because they need more energy.

igorkraw 5y ago
It's a misunderstanding that evolution leads to only positive behaviours remaining. Eating your own tentacles might be similar to humans cutting themselves, or the stress response behaviours spillover by zoo animals: a spillover réaction that turns adaptive behavioural patterns (eating) into maladaptive (eating yourself)
- macilacilove 5y ago
  Very few humans cut themselves and it has very limited health consequences for those who do. Evolution predicts that self-harming behaviour will be observed less frequently compared to self benefitting behaviours. So whenever an apparently self-harming behaviour is observed it is quite useful to ask: "is it really self-harm or secretly useful somehow?". And also: "how often does that really happen?"
  - igorkraw 5y ago
    You also need to ask yourself "is there a way to do a useful thing without this". Like, evolution can't jump, if the same gene expression gives you better pattern matching and improved chances of hallucinations, depending on the selection drift, you might go for this, and then you are stuck with hallucinations long after the benefit of pattern matching might be lost.
maxwell86 5y ago
A simple answer might be that octopuses get stressed when there are to many other octopuses around which limits resources. Some octopuses eating their own tentacles and dying might give them an evolutionary advantage.
chrischen 5y ago
Net negative in calories but that tentacle is stored energy, so maybe it's like burning fat?

igorkraw 5y ago

It's a misunderstanding that evolution leads to only positive behaviours remaining. Eating your own tentacles might be similar to humans cutting themselves, or the stress response behaviours spillover by zoo animals: a spillover réaction that turns adaptive behavioural patterns (eating) into maladaptive (eating yourself)

macilacilove 5y ago
Very few humans cut themselves and it has very limited health consequences for those who do. Evolution predicts that self-harming behaviour will be observed less frequently compared to self benefitting behaviours. So whenever an apparently self-harming behaviour is observed it is quite useful to ask: "is it really self-harm or secretly useful somehow?". And also: "how often does that really happen?"
- igorkraw 5y ago
  You also need to ask yourself "is there a way to do a useful thing without this". Like, evolution can't jump, if the same gene expression gives you better pattern matching and improved chances of hallucinations, depending on the selection drift, you might go for this, and then you are stuck with hallucinations long after the benefit of pattern matching might be lost.

maxwell86 5y ago

A simple answer might be that octopuses get stressed when there are to many other octopuses around which limits resources. Some octopuses eating their own tentacles and dying might give them an evolutionary advantage.

chrischen 5y ago

Net negative in calories but that tentacle is stored energy, so maybe it's like burning fat?