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"Encouraging the spread of disease" They are stastically more likely to die from tripping on a sidewalk than dying of Covid. Telling them they are "spreading

"Encouraging the spread of disease" They are stastically more likely to die from tripping on a sidewalk than dying of Covid. Telling them they are "spreading disease" when it's literally a cold/flu is irresponsible... The problem is the fear of COVID has reached religious status and only heathens talk against the Church. The COVID Crusaders will burn witches at the stake no matter if they are spreading fear not based in facts or reality.

dpark 5y ago
> it's literally a cold/flu > they are spreading fear not based in facts or reality. You can’t appeal to facts and reality and then also falsely claim COVID is literally a cold/flu. A cold and a flu aren’t even the same thing as each other. And COVID is certainly neither of those with over 5 million deaths worldwide. Even if you think the numbers are inflated, COVID has still killed something like an order of magnitude more people than the flu would in the same timespan. You don’t convince others by listening by spreading your own lies. Rational thought is not built on misinformation.
- wernercd 5y ago
  "then also falsely claim COVID is literally a cold/flu" It's in the same area... the only difference is we've had those for generations and covid is new. COVID is in effect a bad flu... "5 million deaths" 5 million deaths FROM covid or WITH COVID? Hint: You don't know because we don't know... those numbers are mixed, conflated and confused. "Order of magnitude" In places like the US where hospitals get 30% more money for stamping "something" as "covid"? Hard to take numbers seriously... especially when you admit that "FROM" COVID and "WITH" COVID are different things and haven't been tracked properly. If I have a heart attack... but I had COVID... Am I a COVID death or not? Currently, it's yes... you're a COVID death no matter what kills you. No matter that you're really not a COVID death. "rational thought is not built on misinformation" but the fear around COVID is. That's why kids who are statistically more likely to die tripping on a sidewalk are getting pushed to get vaccines that don't block transmition, don't stop covid and won't end the pandemic. People aren't getting vaccinated for "rational though" because if they were then the people getting the vaccines would be the people who need the extra protection - as they also get that extra protection. Not kids or people in their 20's and younger who are proven a LONG time ago to not need to live in fear. It's not rational thought that's driving COVID at this point. It's fear, misinformation, lies and the Holy Religion of The Vaccine.
  - dpark 5y ago
    > COVID is in effect a bad flu... No, it’s not. It is literally a different disease and the impact is well outsized relative to the flu. > "5 million deaths" 5 million deaths FROM covid or WITH COVID? > Hint: You don't know because we don't know... those numbers are mixed, conflated and confused. This “but numbers are inflated” stuff is FUD. There is zero evidence that the real impact of COVID is lower than the reported numbers. (If you have any, please do share.) Excess deaths indicate that the official COVID death tallies are actually significant undercounting. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00104-8 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00104-8 It’s utterly crazy that people can legitimately hold the view that COVID is no worse than the flu in the face of mass cremations happening in India or refrigerator trucks filled with corpses outside New York hospitals. This doesn’t happen in a typical flu season. > That's why kids who are statistically more likely to die tripping on a sidewalk This seems like an easy claim for you to provide a citation for. Where is it? I’m totally on board with the fact that the risk to children of COVID is very low. But I’m relatively certain that sidewalks being more deadly is bullshit. > fear, misinformation, lies and the Holy Religion of The Vaccine. This coming from someone spreading misinformation. Why do you expect people to engage in real discussion with you when you’re spreading misinformation? Your righteous outrage is unjustified when you’re as guilty of lying to yourself as those you’re arguing with.

dpark 5y ago

> it's literally a cold/flu > they are spreading fear not based in facts or reality. You can’t appeal to facts and reality and then also falsely claim COVID is literally a cold/flu. A cold and a flu aren’t even the same thing as each other. And COVID is certainly neither of those with over 5 million deaths worldwide. Even if you think the numbers are inflated, COVID has still killed something like an order of magnitude more people than the flu would in the same timespan. You don’t convince others by listening by spreading your own lies. Rational thought is not built on misinformation.

wernercd 5y ago
"then also falsely claim COVID is literally a cold/flu" It's in the same area... the only difference is we've had those for generations and covid is new. COVID is in effect a bad flu... "5 million deaths" 5 million deaths FROM covid or WITH COVID? Hint: You don't know because we don't know... those numbers are mixed, conflated and confused. "Order of magnitude" In places like the US where hospitals get 30% more money for stamping "something" as "covid"? Hard to take numbers seriously... especially when you admit that "FROM" COVID and "WITH" COVID are different things and haven't been tracked properly. If I have a heart attack... but I had COVID... Am I a COVID death or not? Currently, it's yes... you're a COVID death no matter what kills you. No matter that you're really not a COVID death. "rational thought is not built on misinformation" but the fear around COVID is. That's why kids who are statistically more likely to die tripping on a sidewalk are getting pushed to get vaccines that don't block transmition, don't stop covid and won't end the pandemic. People aren't getting vaccinated for "rational though" because if they were then the people getting the vaccines would be the people who need the extra protection - as they also get that extra protection. Not kids or people in their 20's and younger who are proven a LONG time ago to not need to live in fear. It's not rational thought that's driving COVID at this point. It's fear, misinformation, lies and the Holy Religion of The Vaccine.
- dpark 5y ago
  > COVID is in effect a bad flu... No, it’s not. It is literally a different disease and the impact is well outsized relative to the flu. > "5 million deaths" 5 million deaths FROM covid or WITH COVID? > Hint: You don't know because we don't know... those numbers are mixed, conflated and confused. This “but numbers are inflated” stuff is FUD. There is zero evidence that the real impact of COVID is lower than the reported numbers. (If you have any, please do share.) Excess deaths indicate that the official COVID death tallies are actually significant undercounting. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00104-8 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00104-8 It’s utterly crazy that people can legitimately hold the view that COVID is no worse than the flu in the face of mass cremations happening in India or refrigerator trucks filled with corpses outside New York hospitals. This doesn’t happen in a typical flu season. > That's why kids who are statistically more likely to die tripping on a sidewalk This seems like an easy claim for you to provide a citation for. Where is it? I’m totally on board with the fact that the risk to children of COVID is very low. But I’m relatively certain that sidewalks being more deadly is bullshit. > fear, misinformation, lies and the Holy Religion of The Vaccine. This coming from someone spreading misinformation. Why do you expect people to engage in real discussion with you when you’re spreading misinformation? Your righteous outrage is unjustified when you’re as guilty of lying to yourself as those you’re arguing with.