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I see a ton of comments from people on both sides of the issue, saying that either a) "I can't stand remote work" or b) "I'll only ever work remote from now on"

I see a ton of comments from people on both sides of the issue, saying that either a) "I can't stand remote work" or b) "I'll only ever work remote from now on". This seems to imply that employees at non-remote-friendly companies will gradually leave to work at remote-friendly ones, and vice-versa. If that's true, over time we can expect company cultures to start becoming more homogenous (and therefore more strident) in either their pro- or anti-remote work stance. It will be interesting to see what % of companies will fall into each camp.

nso95 5y ago
Or, you know, just let your employees choose
- teaearlgraycold 5y ago
  As an all remote guy - I don't know if it makes sense to be in the office if half of the most important people in a meeting are on a screen.
- itake 5y ago
  I've worked on teams where everyone else was in-office and I was remote. I was constantly missing important "water cooler" conversations and my role slowly shifted into "code-monkey" since I no longer had the relevant business context.
- midrus 5y ago
  Mixed environments (within a team) don't work well. People at the office will have conversations that won't get written down anywhere, so remote workers are in disadvantage all the time. In my experience, either the entire team is in a single place or all of them are remote. Now having teams some teams in the office and some others 100% remote, that could work, but I'm skeptical too.
  - DoingIsLearning 5y ago
    In my opinion mixed environments can absolutely work but are _extremely_ dependent on managers experience/maturity. If the rest of the team sees the management culture treating remote workers as first class citizens (in meetings, in communications, in documentation), then the rest of the team follows suit. I agree that there is a network effect that is lost for the remote workers but it also depends on your ambitions, I would argue (and maybe I am projecting my preferences) that most of the people with remote preferences are IC's who love the technical work and have no interest in leadership roles (for which the network aspect would more vital).
  - Mc91 5y ago
    I worked in office before Covid struck, WFH from the same office since. Even though we are all WFH, I am more out of the loop now. Things that happen that I surely would have known about if I was in the office,I don't find out until much later now. Everyone remote doesn't mean everyone is looped in. As others have said, ideal for me would be, it's up to my discretion. I go in when it makes sense, I WFH when it makes sense.
midrus 5y ago
Agree. This is what I've been saying to all my friends/coworkers. You like remote and your company doesn't? switch jobs. You like being in the office and your company went remote? Switch jobs. Problem solved... not everyone is the same and not everyone enjoys the same way of working. There is no enough money in this world to make me go back to 2~3 hours a day commute in a crowded bus.

nso95 5y ago

Or, you know, just let your employees choose

teaearlgraycold 5y ago
As an all remote guy - I don't know if it makes sense to be in the office if half of the most important people in a meeting are on a screen.
itake 5y ago
I've worked on teams where everyone else was in-office and I was remote. I was constantly missing important "water cooler" conversations and my role slowly shifted into "code-monkey" since I no longer had the relevant business context.
midrus 5y ago
Mixed environments (within a team) don't work well. People at the office will have conversations that won't get written down anywhere, so remote workers are in disadvantage all the time. In my experience, either the entire team is in a single place or all of them are remote. Now having teams some teams in the office and some others 100% remote, that could work, but I'm skeptical too.
- DoingIsLearning 5y ago
  In my opinion mixed environments can absolutely work but are _extremely_ dependent on managers experience/maturity. If the rest of the team sees the management culture treating remote workers as first class citizens (in meetings, in communications, in documentation), then the rest of the team follows suit. I agree that there is a network effect that is lost for the remote workers but it also depends on your ambitions, I would argue (and maybe I am projecting my preferences) that most of the people with remote preferences are IC's who love the technical work and have no interest in leadership roles (for which the network aspect would more vital).
- Mc91 5y ago
  I worked in office before Covid struck, WFH from the same office since. Even though we are all WFH, I am more out of the loop now. Things that happen that I surely would have known about if I was in the office,I don't find out until much later now. Everyone remote doesn't mean everyone is looped in. As others have said, ideal for me would be, it's up to my discretion. I go in when it makes sense, I WFH when it makes sense.

midrus 5y ago

Agree. This is what I've been saying to all my friends/coworkers. You like remote and your company doesn't? switch jobs. You like being in the office and your company went remote? Switch jobs. Problem solved... not everyone is the same and not everyone enjoys the same way of working. There is no enough money in this world to make me go back to 2~3 hours a day commute in a crowded bus.