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> All persons with severe outcomes had at least one risk factor; 78% of persons who died had at least four. It’s worth discussing what these risk factors are,

> All persons with severe outcomes had at least one risk factor; 78% of persons who died had at least four. It’s worth discussing what these risk factors are, since they’re a lot more common and broader than people imagine. I myself have at least 4 CDC identified factors: I’m lactose intolerant, have an anxiety disorder, seasonal allergies and “caffeine dependency”. While the overall number of adverse advents in my age range aren’t terribly concerning, the “at least 4 risk factors” discourse strikes me as terribly misleading because many of these “risk factors” that are used to handwave away deaths are common and utterly benign. How many other people in this industry have acne, are on the autism spectrum, suffer from depression, experience lower back pain? Practically everyone I’ve ever worked with is probably pushing 4 factors.

spxtr 5y ago
I'm probably misreading this, but I see "In this study, age ≥65 years, immunosuppression, diabetes, and chronic kidney, cardiac, pulmonary, neurologic, and liver disease were associated with higher odds for severe COVID-19 outcomes;" listed as the eight risk factors. Where are you seeing the ones you listed?
- msbarnett 5y ago
  It comes from their full comorbidity tracking dataset: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbid... Some of these aren't common comorbidities, but they nonetheless factor in to the "died with N comorbidities" averages
  - thoughtstheseus 5y ago
    Good news! The CDC does not identify every comorbidity as a risk factor. I’m glad they provide the data so you can make a more nuanced decision on your own.
imgabe 5y ago
> I myself have at least 4 CDC identified factors: I’m lactose intolerant, have an anxiety disorder, seasonal allergies and “caffeine dependency”. These are just widespread things in the population. If 80% of the population has a caffeine dependency, then it's not surprising that 80% of people who die of Covid have a caffeine dependency. That doesn't mean they're related.

spxtr 5y ago

I'm probably misreading this, but I see "In this study, age ≥65 years, immunosuppression, diabetes, and chronic kidney, cardiac, pulmonary, neurologic, and liver disease were associated with higher odds for severe COVID-19 outcomes;" listed as the eight risk factors. Where are you seeing the ones you listed?

msbarnett 5y ago
It comes from their full comorbidity tracking dataset: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbid... Some of these aren't common comorbidities, but they nonetheless factor in to the "died with N comorbidities" averages
- thoughtstheseus 5y ago
  Good news! The CDC does not identify every comorbidity as a risk factor. I’m glad they provide the data so you can make a more nuanced decision on your own.

imgabe 5y ago

> I myself have at least 4 CDC identified factors: I’m lactose intolerant, have an anxiety disorder, seasonal allergies and “caffeine dependency”. These are just widespread things in the population. If 80% of the population has a caffeine dependency, then it's not surprising that 80% of people who die of Covid have a caffeine dependency. That doesn't mean they're related.