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It's mind boggling that selling VPN services became a thing. Was I the NSA or any state level actor, selling a VPN service as a front seems the best thing to do
by BaconPackets 5y ago
It's mind boggling that selling VPN services became a thing. Was I the NSA or any state level actor, selling a VPN service as a front seems the best thing to do to cast a pretty wide net.
- DarylZero 5y agoPeople do it to hide their location from Netflix. Don't think they care about NSA.
- just_steve_h 5y agoYeah but Netflix is better than most (possibly not better than the NSA but likely on a par with them) at determining which users are coming in via VPN.
- ugjka 5y agoI had a VPN buster bot on an IRC channel I was moderating because of some persistent troll who kept switching between every VPN that is out there. Apart from using a deny list that you can find on Github, you just look at the size of the subnet the IP is coming from in WHOIS output. VPN IP adresses are part of very small subnets unlike legit ISP ip addresses that come from wide subnets https://github.com/ugjka/flipbot/blob/master/trigger_vpn.go https://github.com/ugjka/flipbot/blob/master/trigger_vpn.go (it is not pretty, i know, but it worked)
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- blitzar 5y agoPeople think they are hiding from the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, the sherrifs department and the criminals trying to steal your banking details.
- antifa 5y agoIDK about most people, I just don't want my ISP to know about my torrents.
- bradknowles 5y agoI don’t want my ISP (AT&T) fucking with my web traffic and inserting their own ads, throttling access to sites they don’t like (such as Netflix) because those sites compete with company-owned assets or partners that they would like to force everyone to use. Yes, AT&T has been shown to be doing all these things.
- rwaksmunski 5y agoSelf selecting crowd that has something to hide.
- olliej 5y agoLike their location from streaming sites :) Also recall that multiple ISPs have been caught tracking their users and selling their user’s data. The expansion of secure connections limited that to a degree, but we know ISPs are still extracting and selling data based on their response to people switching over to encrypted DNS requests.
- jdworrells 5y agoSomething to hide? How about something to protect. I'm overseas in a country that has a strong Chinese presence and a monopolistic semi-untrustworthy goverment owned ISP. I have a VPN profile installed on my wifi router so all my traffic is encrypted from my wifi WAN port all the way back to my home country and a trusted endpoint. If the VPN goes down, my router blocks all traffic until it's back up. Not all VPN users are dark web operators selling raw fentanyl or viewing Netflix from the "wrong" geographical area.
- bearbearbear 5y ago
- diffeomorphism 5y agoWhich is why wide spread use is so important. Same for secure messaging. Same reason why free speech applies to and is protected for everyone and not just selected journalists.
- namlem 5y agoI'm not hiding from the government lol I'm just hiding from my ISP.
- CyanBird 5y agoCoff Coff ProtonMail Coff coff