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> What am I overlooking? You can get it more than once.

by remram 5y ago

kerneloftruth 5y ago
Yes, like other coronaviruses[1]. It's time to calm down and return to normal order. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/general-information.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/general-information.html
remarkEon 5y ago
And you can get a cold more than once. What's your point? Omicron is a mild illness, especially if you're vaccinated. I'm not sure why we should keep acting like we were in mid 2020, when we didn't have vaccines at all.
- MattRix 5y ago
  It may be a “mild” illness, but a mild illness that spreads through the entire population at once is still a bad thing. Many hospitals in areas with Omicron have been pushed to the absolute limit, and that’s despite the fairly strict procautions that have been taken.
  - bavell 5y ago
    Which hospitals and which limits? And why is this still a problem after 2 years? How many more years or decades will it continue to be a problem?
    - MattRix 5y ago
      I live in Ontario in Canada and it’s a problem here. I don’t understand what 2 years has to do with it. The big point of restrictions is to flatten the curve. This might be the last time it’s a problem, or it might continue for another year, who knows? It really depends on what variants emerge and how serious their effects are.
    - sudosysgen 5y ago
      Because you can't enact systemic change in two years, and because politicians don't want to make the healthcare system more robust.
      - wrycoder 5y ago
        You might at least try.
        sudosysgen 5y ago
        Agreed! I don't want to give the impression we shouldn't try to.
  - fxtentacle 5y ago
    In my area, all covid patients combined are still <= 10% of capacity.
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  - horns4lyfe 5y ago
    Do you have any numbers to back up your “many hospitals” claim?
spicymaki 5y ago
> What am I overlooking? >> You can get it more than once. We were lucky that Omicron was relatively mild, the virus can mutate and become more deadly. The more people get infected the mutation risk increases.
Ancapistani 5y ago
Yep. You can also get it after being vaccinated. Assuming that the protection of a previous infection is approximately equivalent to vaccination, then the GP’s question is spot on - after Omicron burns it’s way through the population, we will effectively be at “full vaccination”. At that point, what are we trying to contain?
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- mrguyorama 5y ago
  The question is how effectively recovering from omicron prevents a future omicron infection. If it prevents it then great, the problem solves itself, but if you can still pretty easily catch another round of omicron then basically this is just our life now, and eventually people will give up on any mitigation efforts and covid will just keep killing people. Right now we are dealing with the fact that omicron hits hard, and fills hospitals. Here in Maine we did okay through previous waves, so we have plenty of people with no "natural" exposure to covid. Our hospitals are pretty much over capacity. So what happens if you get into a car crash and need medical attention if there's no room for you? It's somewhat unanswered. Either option, thousands more will die and everything will be open in a year or two.
puffoflogic 5y ago
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> What am I overlooking? You can get it more than once.

by remram 5y ago

> What am I overlooking? You can get it more than once.

Yes, like other coronaviruses[1]. It's time to calm down and return to normal order. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/general-information.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/general-information.html

remarkEon 5y ago

And you can get a cold more than once. What's your point? Omicron is a mild illness, especially if you're vaccinated. I'm not sure why we should keep acting like we were in mid 2020, when we didn't have vaccines at all.

MattRix 5y ago
It may be a “mild” illness, but a mild illness that spreads through the entire population at once is still a bad thing. Many hospitals in areas with Omicron have been pushed to the absolute limit, and that’s despite the fairly strict procautions that have been taken.
- bavell 5y ago
  Which hospitals and which limits? And why is this still a problem after 2 years? How many more years or decades will it continue to be a problem?
  - MattRix 5y ago
    I live in Ontario in Canada and it’s a problem here. I don’t understand what 2 years has to do with it. The big point of restrictions is to flatten the curve. This might be the last time it’s a problem, or it might continue for another year, who knows? It really depends on what variants emerge and how serious their effects are.
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    Because you can't enact systemic change in two years, and because politicians don't want to make the healthcare system more robust.
    - wrycoder 5y ago
      You might at least try.
      - sudosysgen 5y ago
        Agreed! I don't want to give the impression we shouldn't try to.
- fxtentacle 5y ago
  In my area, all covid patients combined are still <= 10% of capacity.
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- horns4lyfe 5y ago
  Do you have any numbers to back up your “many hospitals” claim?

spicymaki 5y ago

> What am I overlooking? >> You can get it more than once. We were lucky that Omicron was relatively mild, the virus can mutate and become more deadly. The more people get infected the mutation risk increases.

Ancapistani 5y ago

Yep. You can also get it after being vaccinated. Assuming that the protection of a previous infection is approximately equivalent to vaccination, then the GP’s question is spot on - after Omicron burns it’s way through the population, we will effectively be at “full vaccination”. At that point, what are we trying to contain?

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mrguyorama 5y ago
The question is how effectively recovering from omicron prevents a future omicron infection. If it prevents it then great, the problem solves itself, but if you can still pretty easily catch another round of omicron then basically this is just our life now, and eventually people will give up on any mitigation efforts and covid will just keep killing people. Right now we are dealing with the fact that omicron hits hard, and fills hospitals. Here in Maine we did okay through previous waves, so we have plenty of people with no "natural" exposure to covid. Our hospitals are pretty much over capacity. So what happens if you get into a car crash and need medical attention if there's no room for you? It's somewhat unanswered. Either option, thousands more will die and everything will be open in a year or two.

puffoflogic 5y ago

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