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Apparently, maintaining a historical and cultural element such as a language is not worth spending a neglectable amount of tax money because... it doesn't provi
by agubelu 5y ago
Apparently, maintaining a historical and cultural element such as a language is not worth spending a neglectable amount of tax money because... it doesn't provide monetary returns?
- iqanq 5y agoNothing that we pay for with our taxes provides a monetary return. That doesn't mean we should waste money, especially in a country like Spain.
- laurensr 5y agoI disagree wholeheartedly. Although an AI engine would probably consider this 'better' and 'more efficient' this doesn't mean it's morally the right thing to do.
- dasloop 5y agoOptimizing other’s culture
- lmm 5y agoIn my experience these movements are populated extensively by parents who won't put in the effort to learn "their" language pushing it on their children. (Speaking as a bitter Welsh guy)
- lbrito 5y ago>especially in a country like Spain Why specially Spain?
- iamacyborg 5y agoTheir economy hasn’t been doing very well.
- ggrrhh_ta 5y agoMaybe referring to the fact that Spain cannot afford spending money on its cultural heritage after having bailed out the banks with between 40 and 100 billion euros (or if those figures (from Wikipedia) are still too controversial, let's say at least a couple of billions only).
- la_oveja 5y agoIt is not wasting money if it helps mantaining cultural heritage. Just because you dont give it value, its not valueless.
- fritztastic 5y ago> especially in a country like Spain. Funny considering Catalonia pays more in taxes than Madrid.
- weatherlight 5y agoI'm not sure why you are being down voted for saying this. Citation here -> https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/europe/catalan-referendum-explained/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/europe/catalan-referendum-exp...
- elnatro 5y agoOld article. Please, be advised that the push for independence referendum in 2017 was illegal, as the autonomous communities can’t organize referendums (as per the Spanish Constitution). Note that the nationalists have made no proposal for a Constitutional change in that way.
- cronopios 5y agoThat's simply not true: Spanish Constitution do allow autonomous communities to organize referenda. As a matter of fact, quite a few have been held: * Basque Country, 1979-10-25: Referéndum sobre el proyecto de Estatuto de Autonomía para el País Vasco * Catalonia, 1979-10-25: Referéndum sobre el Estatuto de Autonomía de Cataluña * Andalusia, 1980-02-28: Referéndum sobre la iniciativa del proceso autonómico de Andalucía * Galicia, 1980-12-21: Referendum sobre el Estatuto de Autonomía de Galicia * Andalusia, 1981-10-20: Referéndum sobre el Estatuto de Autonomía de Andalucía * Catalonia, 2006-06-18: Referéndum sobre la reforma del Estatuto de Autonomía de Cataluña * Andalusia, 2007-02-18: Referéndum sobre la reforma del Estatuto de Autonomía de Andalucía
- elnatro 5y agoThose referendums were about constituting the regions as Autonomous Communities (what in USA is an “state”), or about updating their “estatuto de autonomía” (declaration of state). They were not about independence from Spain. Actually, Spain forbids independence clearly in its Constitution, as it is illegal in many other countries, like the USA for example.
- type0 5y ago> especially in a country like Spain. especially while Spain continues to waste money on entertainment consisting of animal cruelty
- Sporktacular 5y ago"Nothing that we pay for with our taxes provides a monetary return." What? Roads, schools, subsidised healthcare. Even the next sentence is a non-sequitur. You're talking crap.
- nine_k 5y agoEducation or healthcare provide returns which are not directly monetary.
- Sporktacular 5y agoThey provide a monetary return.
- melenaboija 5y agoCould you prove this? Specially education. It seems to me that educated communities bring investments of sectors that need some specific skills.
- Tor3 5y agoMy father was on sick leave for six months waiting for surgery. When he finally reached the start of the queue and got the operation he was back at work the week after, again becoming a taxpayer. Of course it pays to have working healthcare. And it even pays more to have a healthcare system which gets more people back to work as quick as possible. That's so short from "directly monetary" that I don't see the difference.
- harperlee 5y agoOk, a more charitative reading of the parent: it is (badly) referring to the idea that public services are not a bad idea just because they operate at a loss, due to their positive externalities. E.g. a road is a “bad investment” if you only look at direct profit (which is 0 if you dont set up a toll). Obviously they do provide value and that value can often be defined as indirect monetary return. There’s also value for the country that is not easy to monetize in money terms, such as more education helping voters be less manipulable.
- AniseAbyss 5y agoI'd argue that if a language needs to be subsidized its going to die off anyway. But whatever money has been spent on dumber things.