> but it’s pretty obvious we won’t see substantial police reform unless we defund them. I disagree. While we can't just throw money at a problem and expect it

> but it’s pretty obvious we won’t see substantial police reform unless we defund them. I disagree. While we can't just throw money at a problem and expect it to get better, we're going to have to invest in police far more than we have done to get real change. No one wants to live somewhere where police don't have the funds to do their job correctly. We all just want police to do their jobs correctly. That requires oversight and that requires funding. We have to buy body cams for every officer and build/maintain the backend systems to support them, we have to pay for better training in deescalation tactics, we have to pay for better tracking of incidents and reporting, we have to pay for new hires to replace problem officers, we have to pay for independent oversight boards and community programs. There is a lot of work to do and all of it is going to require extensive funding. Accountability is the key to reformation, not defunding. That means removing the police's ability to police themselves (something they've failed at) and having independent review boards handle minor issues while district attorneys and judges throw police behind bars for major ones. Changes are needed throughout the justice system to make this happen. You have to invest in something to repair it, not starve it. Some reforms, like investing in mental health services, restricting civil asset forfeiture, and demilitarization will mean that some departments can get by with fewer officers and might shrink their budgets, but I suspect we'll just be spending much of what we save on oversight and training.