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So if I use gmail for personal email, I now have to switch to a paid plan?

mattl 5y ago
gmail.com or your a personal domain name? - gmail.com -- no. - if you can go to https://admin.google.com https://admin.google.com and you have users -- yes
fuzzy2 5y ago
No. This isn’t about Gmail. It’s about G Suite (formerly Google Apps), which was a business offering from the start. It certainly also contains a mail component based on the same technology, but it’s not Gmail. If your address is somebody@gmail.com, you are not affected.
- Macha 5y ago
  > which was a business offering from the start It was not exclusively a business offer from 2010 when it was a free individual tier: http://web.archive.org/web/20101224193042/http://www.google.com/apps/ http://web.archive.org/web/20101224193042/http://www.google.... to 2012 when the free edition was marketed as entirely different product ot the business one: http://web.archive.org/web/20120401000138/https://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html http://web.archive.org/web/20120401000138/https://www.google...
- waych 5y ago
  This is still very disingenuous on Google's part. When many people, myself and family included, first associated our own custom domains with them, there _were_ no "Google Apps" other than gmail. Google Calendar wasn't a thing, neither was Google Docs, Google Sheets, nor Google Meet. Android didn't exist, neither did Fi. Youtube was still its own property with its own separate accounts system. Later on, when they started building new offerings, including those that became known bundled as "Google Apps", they continued to conflate the account usage with these several other services. When they decided this was something worthy of charging, they promised "free legacy" edition use indefinitely to users, calling them pioneers and champions of the service, as a way to thank them for their evangelism. The growth of periphery services continued, and now legacy users are faced with a hostage situation for all their data and purchases associated with their accounts.
pknomad 5y ago
If you signed up for G-Suite yes. If you were using a non @gmail.com domain then you were most likely on free G-Suite tier.
neogodless 5y ago
If you use GSuite Legacy for personal email, you would have the choice of switching to a paid plan, or migrating your email to a personal account (or any other email hosting provider.) If you use a personal GMail account, there is no change here that applies to you.
- starik36 5y ago
  > migrating your email to a personal account I use GSuite Legacy for a personal email only. So migrating my foo@customdomain.com to a @gmail.com is fine. However, I didn't see anything in the article that indicates that this will be offered or even possible. Where did you see this?
  - neogodless 5y ago
    There are a few ways to achieve this technically, even if Google isn't going to be super helpful. If you use Google's tedious Takeout service, you can get a big zip file which will contain an .mbox file with all of your email. But note, labels don't really apply here, so it'll be one giant folder with all of your email. (That was my experience trying to use ImportExportNG, an add-on for Thunderbird.) You can also use an application like Thunderbird. Connect via IMAP to your GSuite Legacy account. Connect via IMAP to another account; can be Gmail or another provider. Drap and drop folders and/or individual emails between the two. Works surprisingly well, albeit not particularly fast. I copied about 100,000 emails yesterday evening. The nice thing about this preserving labels/folders. There are tools in some email providers that would let you login to your GSuite Legacy account and import/copy all email.
- jrochkind1 5y ago
  > or migrating your email to a personal account There is no such migration plan offered, it's unclear how to do it, or if it's possible. Of course you can move to a non-google host, just by changing your MX records or whatever.
  - bonestamp2 5y ago
    > There is no such migration plan offered, it's unclear how to do it, or if it's possible. I think you would just create a gmail account, then add the G Suite account in the settings of the new gmail account so it will download all of the G Suite email through POP3 or IMAP. Definitely give yourself a few days for this before the cutoff -- I've had gmail pull years worth of email from another account and it will eventually hit a rate limit and go very slow.
hammyhavoc 5y ago
You will need to switch if you use a grandfathered G Suite "legacy" free account, as of May, if you wish to continue to use it. A free @gmail.com? Nothing to do with it.

gmail.com or your a personal domain name? - gmail.com -- no. - if you can go to https://admin.google.com https://admin.google.com and you have users -- yes

fuzzy2 5y ago

No. This isn’t about Gmail. It’s about G Suite (formerly Google Apps), which was a business offering from the start. It certainly also contains a mail component based on the same technology, but it’s not Gmail. If your address is somebody@gmail.com, you are not affected.

Macha 5y ago
> which was a business offering from the start It was not exclusively a business offer from 2010 when it was a free individual tier: http://web.archive.org/web/20101224193042/http://www.google.com/apps/ http://web.archive.org/web/20101224193042/http://www.google.... to 2012 when the free edition was marketed as entirely different product ot the business one: http://web.archive.org/web/20120401000138/https://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html http://web.archive.org/web/20120401000138/https://www.google...
waych 5y ago
This is still very disingenuous on Google's part. When many people, myself and family included, first associated our own custom domains with them, there _were_ no "Google Apps" other than gmail. Google Calendar wasn't a thing, neither was Google Docs, Google Sheets, nor Google Meet. Android didn't exist, neither did Fi. Youtube was still its own property with its own separate accounts system. Later on, when they started building new offerings, including those that became known bundled as "Google Apps", they continued to conflate the account usage with these several other services. When they decided this was something worthy of charging, they promised "free legacy" edition use indefinitely to users, calling them pioneers and champions of the service, as a way to thank them for their evangelism. The growth of periphery services continued, and now legacy users are faced with a hostage situation for all their data and purchases associated with their accounts.

pknomad 5y ago

If you signed up for G-Suite yes. If you were using a non @gmail.com domain then you were most likely on free G-Suite tier.

neogodless 5y ago

If you use GSuite Legacy for personal email, you would have the choice of switching to a paid plan, or migrating your email to a personal account (or any other email hosting provider.) If you use a personal GMail account, there is no change here that applies to you.

starik36 5y ago
> migrating your email to a personal account I use GSuite Legacy for a personal email only. So migrating my foo@customdomain.com to a @gmail.com is fine. However, I didn't see anything in the article that indicates that this will be offered or even possible. Where did you see this?
- neogodless 5y ago
  There are a few ways to achieve this technically, even if Google isn't going to be super helpful. If you use Google's tedious Takeout service, you can get a big zip file which will contain an .mbox file with all of your email. But note, labels don't really apply here, so it'll be one giant folder with all of your email. (That was my experience trying to use ImportExportNG, an add-on for Thunderbird.) You can also use an application like Thunderbird. Connect via IMAP to your GSuite Legacy account. Connect via IMAP to another account; can be Gmail or another provider. Drap and drop folders and/or individual emails between the two. Works surprisingly well, albeit not particularly fast. I copied about 100,000 emails yesterday evening. The nice thing about this preserving labels/folders. There are tools in some email providers that would let you login to your GSuite Legacy account and import/copy all email.
jrochkind1 5y ago
> or migrating your email to a personal account There is no such migration plan offered, it's unclear how to do it, or if it's possible. Of course you can move to a non-google host, just by changing your MX records or whatever.
- bonestamp2 5y ago
  > There is no such migration plan offered, it's unclear how to do it, or if it's possible. I think you would just create a gmail account, then add the G Suite account in the settings of the new gmail account so it will download all of the G Suite email through POP3 or IMAP. Definitely give yourself a few days for this before the cutoff -- I've had gmail pull years worth of email from another account and it will eventually hit a rate limit and go very slow.

hammyhavoc 5y ago

You will need to switch if you use a grandfathered G Suite "legacy" free account, as of May, if you wish to continue to use it. A free @gmail.com? Nothing to do with it.