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Beyonce? Taylor Swift? Lady Gaga (see A Star is Born)? Bruno Mars? Rihanna? Katy Perry? Billie Eilish? Camila Cabello? Hell, even Justin Bieber.

masklinn 5y ago
Hell, Collier has already collected 5 grammies, and managed to get at least one for each of his first four albums.
WalterBright 5y ago
Please post a youtube link you feel is representative of your point. I've been generous providing links supporting my findings. Your turn! But hey, let's look at the first on your list, Beyonce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pPe7sxMVAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pPe7sxMVAY Autotuned all the way. It sounds sweetened, as her tone changes from song to song. It sounds "adjusted" in a way I never hear from older songs. This is apparent around the 48 minute mark. Sometimes she pushes too hard and it sounds a bit screechy. I saw (and heard!) A Star Is Born. I was so impressed by her singing, I rushed out and didn't buy the soundtrack, and can't recall anything she sung. Oh well. Julie Andrews she ain't. Julie Andrews is probably the greatest female singer that ever existed. (Well, Marni Nixon who was so good she secretly dubbed the other stars deserves accolades!)
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  It's trivial to do so yourself if you just looked for live or acoustic performances. And there are even videos that do the work of isolating vocals for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUrjHF_vaY4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUrjHF_vaY4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siPZOWMhXdA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siPZOWMhXdA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ien38Lw2OLw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ien38Lw2OLw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWnFnupgzdA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWnFnupgzdA
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    For your listening pleasure, may I present: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVER6hyoyJo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVER6hyoyJo And just for fun, from 1987, best cover evar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AUOAGlASRQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AUOAGlASRQ > if you just looked for It's sad to have to dig for them.
    - Apocryphon 5y ago
      Yes, yes, I’ve already seen the trailer for the new Matrix sequel which rather hamfistedly uses that song. Most of those videos are easily found simply by searching “$ARTIST [no autotune | acoustic | live]”.
      - WalterBright 5y ago
        I didn't know that about the Matrix sequel. Being a crusty old moron, as other HNers have accurately labeled me, I thought the first Matrix sucked and so never watched the sequels. But don't you think it's sad that a modern movie has to reach back in time 35 years to find a good song to use? (I bought that Sanctuary album back in the 80's, when Brain Pain was broadcasting their metal show weekly. I miss Brain Pain.)

masklinn 5y ago

Hell, Collier has already collected 5 grammies, and managed to get at least one for each of his first four albums.

WalterBright 5y ago

Please post a youtube link you feel is representative of your point. I've been generous providing links supporting my findings. Your turn! But hey, let's look at the first on your list, Beyonce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pPe7sxMVAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pPe7sxMVAY Autotuned all the way. It sounds sweetened, as her tone changes from song to song. It sounds "adjusted" in a way I never hear from older songs. This is apparent around the 48 minute mark. Sometimes she pushes too hard and it sounds a bit screechy. I saw (and heard!) A Star Is Born. I was so impressed by her singing, I rushed out and didn't buy the soundtrack, and can't recall anything she sung. Oh well. Julie Andrews she ain't. Julie Andrews is probably the greatest female singer that ever existed. (Well, Marni Nixon who was so good she secretly dubbed the other stars deserves accolades!)

Apocryphon 5y ago
It's trivial to do so yourself if you just looked for live or acoustic performances. And there are even videos that do the work of isolating vocals for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUrjHF_vaY4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUrjHF_vaY4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siPZOWMhXdA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siPZOWMhXdA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ien38Lw2OLw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ien38Lw2OLw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWnFnupgzdA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWnFnupgzdA
- WalterBright 5y ago
  For your listening pleasure, may I present: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVER6hyoyJo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVER6hyoyJo And just for fun, from 1987, best cover evar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AUOAGlASRQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AUOAGlASRQ > if you just looked for It's sad to have to dig for them.
  - Apocryphon 5y ago
    Yes, yes, I’ve already seen the trailer for the new Matrix sequel which rather hamfistedly uses that song. Most of those videos are easily found simply by searching “$ARTIST [no autotune | acoustic | live]”.
    - WalterBright 5y ago
      I didn't know that about the Matrix sequel. Being a crusty old moron, as other HNers have accurately labeled me, I thought the first Matrix sucked and so never watched the sequels. But don't you think it's sad that a modern movie has to reach back in time 35 years to find a good song to use? (I bought that Sanctuary album back in the 80's, when Brain Pain was broadcasting their metal show weekly. I miss Brain Pain.)