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This is the entire arm community, and its so entrenched that despite SBBR/Systemready just about every single SoC manufacture and board vendor continue to follo

This is the entire arm community, and its so entrenched that despite SBBR/Systemready just about every single SoC manufacture and board vendor continue to follow this one off embedded mindset where everything is bound into a blob containing the firmware, OS and applications. (ex: see rpi) when just focusing on conforming the existing firmware standards would allow not only one off hacked up linux to work, but windows and various other OS's. There isn't any reason other the stubbornness and ignorance that the arm ecosystem doesn't work just like the desktop PC market at this point when it comes to being able to install any random OS on any random board. There are some notable exceptions to this (Solidrun?) but the senior engineering has blinders on (and lots of false excuses why it wont work), and the mgmt chain likes the status quo because they see it as some kind of market segmentation strategy.

someguydave 5y ago
I suspect that the manufacturers are frightened that someone will undercut them if they conform to an open standard.
- marktangotango 5y ago
  Indeed, seems like the IBM "fiasco" with PCs looms large here. The dominance of clones was awesome for consumers, not so much for IBM.
  - b112 5y ago
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  - someguydave 5y ago
    The IBM (also Apple) clone fiasco looms large over every sector of electronics. Nobody seems interested in investing in manufacturing electronic hardware without some prospect of customer lock-in.
  - bluGill 5y ago
    > The dominance of clones was awesome for consumers, not so much for IBM. Are you sure? it is really hard to predict what would have happened. Without the clones would the Apple II have taken off (it did have clones, but they would have needed to come up with a 16/32 bit upgrade pretty soon - the IIgs comes to mind though it was too late) , or maybe the mac? Sure IBM had a name and would have got some sales, but would the platform take off? IBM did make a ton of money on PCs even if they were a bit player overall. We can never know the above.

someguydave 5y ago

I suspect that the manufacturers are frightened that someone will undercut them if they conform to an open standard.

marktangotango 5y ago
Indeed, seems like the IBM "fiasco" with PCs looms large here. The dominance of clones was awesome for consumers, not so much for IBM.
- b112 5y ago
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- someguydave 5y ago
  The IBM (also Apple) clone fiasco looms large over every sector of electronics. Nobody seems interested in investing in manufacturing electronic hardware without some prospect of customer lock-in.
- bluGill 5y ago
  > The dominance of clones was awesome for consumers, not so much for IBM. Are you sure? it is really hard to predict what would have happened. Without the clones would the Apple II have taken off (it did have clones, but they would have needed to come up with a 16/32 bit upgrade pretty soon - the IIgs comes to mind though it was too late) , or maybe the mac? Sure IBM had a name and would have got some sales, but would the platform take off? IBM did make a ton of money on PCs even if they were a bit player overall. We can never know the above.