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> It doesn't help those "dissenting opinions" if they're drowned out in a sea of lies or if the lies (collectively) do far more damage. It's a fairly central p

> It doesn't help those "dissenting opinions" if they're drowned out in a sea of lies or if the lies (collectively) do far more damage. It's a fairly central part of the scientific method to be able to construct falsifiable hypotheses and then to attempt to test them. > Social media fact checking isn't some kind of hard block that can suppress any idea from being seen [..] Except it just did: discussion on the origins of Covid was almost completely shut down for well over a year by the actions of one or more bad actors, hugely amplified by well-meaning but weak-minded media and social media outlets?

tablespoon 5y ago
>> Social media fact checking isn't some kind of hard block that can suppress any idea from being seen by anyone (in fact, this case it was little more than a caution sign), and IMHO it's probably better for the truth if it has to pass some hurdles and gets slowed down a bit, just as long as those hurdles increase the single-to-noise ratio > Except it just did: discussion on the origins of Covid was almost completely shut down for well over a year So? The idea made it out, though it's far from proven. In any case social media chatter and speculation about the idea like that has little value. And this is something I'm totally fine with. I think it's totally in the service of truth to let an idea cook, before it's blasted to the public over social media at a loud volume.
- EricE 5y ago
  >So? The idea made it out, though it's far from proven. It only "made it out" because (thankfully) not all communication has yet to be fully gatekept through "fact checkers". In the world you are advocating for it would have never made it out. If that doesn't scare the utter crap out of you I would strongly advocate you are GROSSLY ignorant of history and need to do some serious learning - especially about how a certain party in Europe happened to come to power before world war II. And if you don't think what we are going through right now isn't a precursor on that level - again do some serious reading (preferably from books with copyrights before the 1990s and not online) about the rise of said party. The parallelism going on right now is pretty breathtaking when you stop and really look around.
  - logifail 5y ago
    > do some serious reading [...] We've been watching (and really "enjoying" - although the shows are really well-made it's depressing knowing what actually happened): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_Berlin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_Berlin Currently half-way through Series 3...

tablespoon 5y ago

>> Social media fact checking isn't some kind of hard block that can suppress any idea from being seen by anyone (in fact, this case it was little more than a caution sign), and IMHO it's probably better for the truth if it has to pass some hurdles and gets slowed down a bit, just as long as those hurdles increase the single-to-noise ratio > Except it just did: discussion on the origins of Covid was almost completely shut down for well over a year So? The idea made it out, though it's far from proven. In any case social media chatter and speculation about the idea like that has little value. And this is something I'm totally fine with. I think it's totally in the service of truth to let an idea cook, before it's blasted to the public over social media at a loud volume.

EricE 5y ago
>So? The idea made it out, though it's far from proven. It only "made it out" because (thankfully) not all communication has yet to be fully gatekept through "fact checkers". In the world you are advocating for it would have never made it out. If that doesn't scare the utter crap out of you I would strongly advocate you are GROSSLY ignorant of history and need to do some serious learning - especially about how a certain party in Europe happened to come to power before world war II. And if you don't think what we are going through right now isn't a precursor on that level - again do some serious reading (preferably from books with copyrights before the 1990s and not online) about the rise of said party. The parallelism going on right now is pretty breathtaking when you stop and really look around.
- logifail 5y ago
  > do some serious reading [...] We've been watching (and really "enjoying" - although the shows are really well-made it's depressing knowing what actually happened): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_Berlin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_Berlin Currently half-way through Series 3...