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tornado.cash is a legitimate service, that happens to be used by hackers that steal ethereum. Check out their code on github.

wpietri 5y ago
That's a pretty funny definition of "legitimate". By that standard, all of this malware is legitimate too! https://github.com/ytisf/theZoo https://github.com/ytisf/theZoo
- cuteboy19 5y ago
  I'm sure someone can come up with some legitimate use for those. We came up with 'Linux isos' for torrents after all
- SilasX 5y ago
  How is it different from “TOR/some VPN is a legitimate service that happens to be used by some hackers to cover their tracks”?
  - wpietri 5y ago
    How many legitimate uses can you name for TOR? And how many can you name for a money laundering service?
    - poma 5y ago
      If you don't need financial privacy can you please post your bank statement here for everyone to see?
      - wpietri 5y ago
        That's quite an evasion of the question. Yet more evidence that there's approximately no legitimate use. But I'm on record as being in favor of full financial transparency for everybody. Every charge, every bank statement. Money, after all, is inherently social. And full transparency, while causing some problems, would eliminate a ton of others. So if you can get a legislator to submit a bill, I'll happy call them up to back it.
gilrain 5y ago
I wonder what percentage of their total volume it is that “happens” to be used by hackers.
- sneak 5y ago
  People who are not criminals deserve transaction privacy, as well.
  - lottin 5y ago
    What would be the point of "transaction privacy"?
    - newbie789 5y ago
    - i67vw3 5y ago
      Odd statement. It is on par that all your bank statement should be public and easily viewable. It is on par saying that people do need digital privacy at all, as they have nothing to hide. And those are trying to hide are really 'bad people'. Monero/Zcash/Dash/Firo/etc are used by legitimate users to hide their transactions from public blockchain.
      - lottin 5y ago
        Your bank statement is not private, your bank has it. You can pay with cash, but the other customers can see you right there paying, so that's not private either. I understand the need for private communications, but private transactions don't seem to make a lot of sense.
    - poma 5y ago
      To avoid getting kidnapped and tortured because your crypto portfolio is visible to everyone? There are plenty of examples of that: https://github.com/jlopp/physical-bitcoin-attacks https://github.com/jlopp/physical-bitcoin-attacks

wpietri 5y ago

That's a pretty funny definition of "legitimate". By that standard, all of this malware is legitimate too! https://github.com/ytisf/theZoo https://github.com/ytisf/theZoo

cuteboy19 5y ago
I'm sure someone can come up with some legitimate use for those. We came up with 'Linux isos' for torrents after all
SilasX 5y ago
How is it different from “TOR/some VPN is a legitimate service that happens to be used by some hackers to cover their tracks”?
- wpietri 5y ago
  How many legitimate uses can you name for TOR? And how many can you name for a money laundering service?
  - poma 5y ago
    If you don't need financial privacy can you please post your bank statement here for everyone to see?
    - wpietri 5y ago
      That's quite an evasion of the question. Yet more evidence that there's approximately no legitimate use. But I'm on record as being in favor of full financial transparency for everybody. Every charge, every bank statement. Money, after all, is inherently social. And full transparency, while causing some problems, would eliminate a ton of others. So if you can get a legislator to submit a bill, I'll happy call them up to back it.

gilrain 5y ago

I wonder what percentage of their total volume it is that “happens” to be used by hackers.

sneak 5y ago
People who are not criminals deserve transaction privacy, as well.
- lottin 5y ago
  What would be the point of "transaction privacy"?
  - newbie789 5y ago
  - i67vw3 5y ago
    Odd statement. It is on par that all your bank statement should be public and easily viewable. It is on par saying that people do need digital privacy at all, as they have nothing to hide. And those are trying to hide are really 'bad people'. Monero/Zcash/Dash/Firo/etc are used by legitimate users to hide their transactions from public blockchain.
    - lottin 5y ago
      Your bank statement is not private, your bank has it. You can pay with cash, but the other customers can see you right there paying, so that's not private either. I understand the need for private communications, but private transactions don't seem to make a lot of sense.
  - poma 5y ago
    To avoid getting kidnapped and tortured because your crypto portfolio is visible to everyone? There are plenty of examples of that: https://github.com/jlopp/physical-bitcoin-attacks https://github.com/jlopp/physical-bitcoin-attacks